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Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

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Old 20.06.2014, 18:01
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

Is this effective immediately or does it have to go
for a Referendum like most things in Switzerland?
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Old 20.06.2014, 18:44
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

After 3 months.

Swiss Citizenship after 8 years? [Now 10 years]
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Old 20.06.2014, 18:48
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

Thinking out loudly, I'm trying to way up the benefits or perks that the Swiss passport delivers apart from being able to vote.
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Old 20.06.2014, 18:56
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

Depends where/what your current passport is!
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

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Thinking out loudly, I'm trying to way up the benefits or perks that the Swiss passport delivers apart from being able to vote.
Can't be deported as far as I know! Useful to know, if you are a wannabe criminal!
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Old 20.06.2014, 20:55
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Thinking out loudly, I'm trying to way up the benefits or perks that the Swiss passport delivers apart from being able to vote.
National ID card is handy and renewal is very easy...

I switched when I got to the point that Ireland no longer felt like home... I enjoy visiting, but Switzerland is definitely home now.
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Old 07.07.2014, 10:45
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

So the requirements to become a Swiss citizen will become harder:

What are the new requirements?
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Old 07.07.2014, 11:11
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So the requirements to become a Swiss citizen will become harder:
Eh? How did you come to that conclusion? AFAICS this simply means you don't need to wait as long as before.
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Old 07.07.2014, 11:21
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Eh? How did you come to that conclusion? AFAICS this simply means you don't need to wait as long as before.
Not necessarily correct. They did decrease the time and harmonize requirements across the cantons, but they've strengthened the integration requirements and now require a C permit prior to application.

Frankly, if you don't meet the "strengthened" integration requirements after 5 years, let alone 10, you're probably not trying very hard... but that was the compromise with the groups that wanted to make it harder rather than easier to get a passport.
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National ID card is handy and renewal is very easy...
Handy for what exactly? Just easier than carrying your passport and B/C permit at all times (which I accept) or any more tangible benefits?
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Thinking out loudly, I'm trying to way up the benefits or perks that the Swiss passport delivers apart from being able to vote.
If you consider Switzerland your home, having the passport means not being treated like a foreigner in the country which is your home. And by "treated like a foreigner" I mean, if you ever need to leave the country for more than 6 months, you have the ability to freely come back with the same status you left. I think that's quite important if you consider Switzerland your home.

The other thing to consider is what the future rules might be like in terms of immigration / work. Yes, its easy to live/work in CH with an EU passport now, but it may not be in the future.
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

I rang the people in Zürich and they said it will take effect from 01.01.2015 if it gets approved. So I think it's not official yet. On the website it still says 12 years: (in German - pdf at end) http://www.gaz.zh.ch/internet/justiz...uergerung.html
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

Is anyone in the process of applying or has anyone been naturalised this year who would be prepared to talk to me for an article I'm writing? Thanks for your responses. E
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Old 13.11.2014, 15:13
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I think it's not so much tangible benefits of "you can do this that you couldn't before" (other than vote, and go and return at will) but more the soft, intangible stuff - things like being regarded in a better light when applying for apartments etc. For instance I'm sure I would never have been considered for our business premises if I hadn't had the little red passport.
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Old 13.11.2014, 15:57
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Is anyone in the process of applying or has anyone been naturalised this year who would be prepared to talk to me for an article I'm writing? Thanks for your responses. E
Emmy, just look up FATCA, or Renunciation in the search function, and you will find plenty of folks that , who having been here some requisite number of years, have naturalised.

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New 10 year rule citizenship activation date in Geneva canton

Hi,

First time on this fourm so have been following the long discussion here,

http://www.englishforum.ch/permits-v...r-8-years.html

As we all know, the new federal law of 10 years residency in CH with C permit and language knowledge became law last September.

I just need to clarify with anyone knowledgeable, when will this law being official in the canton of Geneva? Does a separate law need to passed in the Geneva parliament and when can you apply under the new rules?

Thanks in advance
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Old 12.01.2015, 01:16
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

It has passed the parliament, so it's a law. However, the law will take 1-2 years to be put into force (so, 2016 or 2017). Right now it has been sent to the Bundesamt für Migration in Bern, who are determining the exact regulations and harmonizing it with other existing law. No one can say when it will exactly be put into force.

Source: Einbürgerungs Sprechstunde this week in Basel.
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

I think benefits would be bigger for our kids and not so much for us. The kids have to go to school, university, rent a room etc. All a lot easier with a Swiss passport. Also the kids won't loose the passport they already have (depending on nationality of course). The Swiss passport would be an extra.

There may be some benefits to become Swiss as it cuts off some of the taxation from the homeland as in the bilateral agreements there are some escape clauses that can be put to good use (as in this rule does not apply when the person gets the Swiss nationality).
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Re: Naturalisation after 10 years; passes parliament vote

Agree on the kids part. My 2 year old spent a few weeks in the UK and the rest of the time here, she only knows CH. With my 5 year old this is where she's done nursery and now school, this is where her friends are.
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