oops, another discrimination example of this country, only US, Canada, EU citizens can apply for the C permit after 5 years working permit B while citizens from Asia Pacific countries need 10 years instead....one of my colleauges who holds the Australian passport was refused on his Permit C application this week, he has been in this country for 10 years but he had 1 year student permit B record

i guess the language requirement (not test) is for non EU only and maybe for the new EU.

Hi

I am a bit confused so maybe there are some people who might have some info on this

1. Has anyone recently applied for a C permit without a permanent job contract and obtained it ?
2. Can one apply if the work contract (new) is from another canton ?

It seems there are some who have got it with and some without a permanent contract lined up at the time of application.

thanks

I think you are confused.

There are 2 people on here who are applying after 10 years from the EU.

The only way you can apply after 5 years is if you are married to a Swiss

No, US, Canada, Japan (maybe, not sure...) and I think a couple other places are five years.

Greetings to all,

I am in Switzerland 4.5 years on a B-permit (Kurzaufenthalt, actually, where you can't change employers freely).

Question 1: has anybody who is non-EU, non-US/CA/NZ, and not married to anybody from the above or to a Swiss person, recently gotten a C permit based on the B after 5 years AND in Kanton Zürich? Any info is appreciated.

Question 2: My B-Permit will soon be renewed for another 2 years or so. So next spring, when I am eligible to ask for a C permit, my B will still be active - is it a problem (will I be told to wait until the B expiration) or is there a procedure to change an already granted permit B into C?


Thanks a lot,
Best regards,
Lawfrench

I'm not quite sure of the question you ask...but as far as I know, non-EU and non-Special Treaty countries' citizens do not usually get a C permit after 5 years of B permit.
I know this from a case with a friend of mine, he was told to wait for minimum 10 years, subject to the fact that rules do not change by then.

To your questions.
1. Tina Turner did - but you probably will not...
2. If you qualify for a C permit then you can apply for a change to a C part way through your B. You simply complete the permit application form and specify C permit with a cover letter saying how great Switzerland is and how you would really like to stay here...

Simply the best? Better than all the rest?

But Tina Turner is US? The poster asked for non-US, among other things.

Point I was making is that you get it if you become a professor at a university in Switzerland, CEO of a major Swiss company or if you have another special usually wealth related reason. If you do not meet these criteria then you can more or less forget getting it earlier...

I know -- was just pointing out that it was still, within the given criteria, a bad example. I sometimes fail to understand the sarcasm that quite a few of the individuals on this forum use -- it tends to come across as rather rude. Then again, so does mine.

Why not pick the Ramadans? Definitely a non-Western, non-English-speaking family...

Hello, actually sarcasm is a dangerous word to use. I prefer banter as this is relatively inoffensive. And generally what I write could be described rather like my avatar - to the point and often sharp...

Please explain where you see sarcasm in Richards post - I keep rereading it an see no sarcasm at all .

Maybe I misunderstood something, but the original post asked whether someone had gone from B to C without being from the EU, the US, Canada, or New Zealand (I presume that Australia was assumed). His response was:

" 1. Tina Turner did - but you probably will not..."

Well, as I said before, Tina Turner is from the US. I read this to be sarcasm, as Richard did not say that "It is very rare" / "Unless you are very rich." Instead of stating that, he wrote something else. I took that to be sarcasm, i.e. "Well are you rich like Tina Turner? You most probably are not, so oh well!"

FFS draw some parallels please. It's like pulling hen's teeth now, this thread.

The point being that you need to have some alternative special "talent" which need not have anything to do with money although it might have. And as I did not know who the person was I add the probably. This then demonstrates the lack of intent to ridicule which is the primary difference between sarcasm and irony...

Just wanna share my C-Permit experience. At the beginning I was clearly told that German A2 level is the minimum requirement, and when I received the form to renew my permit B, I added that I want my new permit to be a C (the girl in community helped me to write this in German), and i was asked 1 month later to submit a non-criminal record, at the end, no German is required, I got my Permit C a few days ago. But anyway, i would learn some German later on