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L-Permit for an EU contractor

Hello All,
British National. Working as a contractor. With no end date and a daily rate.
Living in Kanton Zug and working for a Swiss company in Kanton Zurich. My payroll agent is not the company I am working for. They are a worldwide known agent.

In July, I have been given an L-Permit instead of B that I was expecting.
The reason was explained as;
1 - Having a contract with a non-Swiss company (come on, they have multiple offices here and they are the agent only. I cannot sign a contract directly with the Swiss company I am working for)
2 - and more importantly, my contract has a daily rate instead of a monthly salary (what??? contractors are working for hourly or daily rates, how can they expect me to have a monthly salary as a contractor???)

Reading the other posts, I understood that being given L instead B is something that has happened to others too.

My questions are,
1 - is the daily-rate thing a superficial obstacle that Kanton Zug invented for me?
2 - Can I expect to get a B in June 2015, when the current L expires?
3 - Will I apply for an extention or will they provide the one when the time comes?

OK, the company I am working for is going to offer me a permanent position once the internals are sorted out but I am quite happy with being a contractor for obvious reasons... and would like to postpone being a permanent as long as possible. So, could you please assume that nothing will be changed in my situation while helping with the questions?

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Old 09.10.2014, 09:30
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Re: L-Permit for an EU contractor

How long have you been working in Switzerland for this company? I don't know anything about how the contracting side works, but my guess is that although you have no end date the authorities are still seeing it as a temporary position which could finish at any time, hence the L over a B.

Could also be a change in policy since the recent vote to curb immigration, i.e. keep people like contractors on L permits so they aren't able to stay in Switzerland so easily if the job finishes. After all if you get a 5 year B permit and lose your job after a year you still have 4 years in which to find a job. With an L it's only valid for a year so if you lose your job after 6 months you only have 6 more months to find work.
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Re: L-Permit for an EU contractor

You need a contract with no end date to get a B permit. So the payroll company need to reissue you a contract with no end date.


They are the one that "employed" you and even though your real work is for the end client it makes no difference. You work for the agency and they pay your salary.


Because they payroll you, you do actually get a salary.


All of the above is assuming the payrolling company/agency has engaged you through their Swiss company.
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Re: L-Permit for an EU contractor

In my case I needed both a work contract and a rental cotract that were indefinite to get a B permit for 5 years. Otherwise it would be a 1 year B permit.
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you can't not have an end date - if the agency are caught, there will be repercussions

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You need a contract with no end date to get a B permit. .
Wrong

A contract with no end date is regular permanent employment

You need to have a contract of a year or longer to get a B permit if you are a contractor, either that or move to some canton in the middle of nowhere

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