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06.11.2006, 18:24
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Hello all!
I am having some doubts with the job i'll be working in. Is it true that there is a salary range for L permit?? My employer said that it is around 3600-3800 CHF. I have a master degree, does that not help with anything?? Anybody who has knowledge on this please please let me know.  This company is actually known (internally) for paying lower salary!
Thanks guys
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06.11.2006, 18:47
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| | | Re: L permit salary range | Quote: | |  | | | Hello all!
I am having some doubts with the job i'll be working in. Is it true that there is a salary range for L permit?? My employer said that it is around 3600-3800 CHF. I have a master degree, does that not help with anything?? Anybody who has knowledge on this please please let me know. This company is actually known (internally) for paying lower salary!
Thanks guys | | | | | Hi Ritara,
I have friends on an L permit and I can confirm that they are earning much higher salaries than that.
I think maybe your employer is pulling a fast one
You haven't said what job it is that you are doing but the wage seems very low.
Hope this helps.
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06.11.2006, 19:12
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I am a EU-L and can assure you there is no such thing as a L permit salary! The salary you mentioned is quite low by any standards in Switzerland and with your education you should not settle for such low income for a full time job. This is an expensive country, especially Zurich and Geneva.
Riitta
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06.11.2006, 19:17
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Hi Ritara, you've given us almost no information to go off, but to answer your question there are no fixed salary ranges for L permits. I know people who earned 13k a month on L permits. There is a lower limit - i.e. if your employer is employing you for a full time job and paying lower than what is deemed to the minimum to survive then he may well be asked what the story is. This "poverty line" varies from place to place and is often mistaken for a minimum wage - Switzerland has no such thing.
But a maximum range for a given permit type? Absolutely no way. Surely this must be something you heard over a beer or two, but I doubt very much whether your employer would say such a thing.
Will a masters degree make a difference to your salary? Why should it? If I were an employer I wouldn't pay you extra for a degree unless it was directly relevant to the job you were doing.
If you are unhappy about your salary then I would suggest searching this forum for "salary" and "salaries" and doing a bit of reading, then posting specific questions about your situation on the relevant threads.
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06.11.2006, 20:39
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| | | Re: L permit salary range
You may not, but many employers do. Get yourself a doctorate and see how you are treated differently (you will be). Such marks of status are very important here. Logic does not play much of a part in it. Salaries are often based on bands commensurate with number of years experience and level of education, so a Masters does make a difference to a professional job application. I know a doctor that is earning a high salary in engineering based on his Art History doctorate.
dave | Quote: | |  | | | Will a masters degree make a difference to your salary? Why should it? If I were an employer I wouldn't pay you extra for a degree unless it was directly relevant to the job you were doing. | | | | | | 
06.11.2006, 21:26
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Thanks guys for all the infos! That is what I kinda thought, what bull*hit it is for my employer to say that. All the answers really help. Now I know know that there is no such thing. | Quote: |  | | | Surely this must be something you heard over a beer or two, but I doubt very much whether your employer would say such a thing. | | | | | Yes Mark, he did say that. How would you know that better than myself?? when I heard it with my own 2 ears.
Anyway, my job is a public relation representative in a well-known jewelry store.
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07.11.2006, 12:29
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I suggest you don't work for this company and tell as many people as you can, the real name here.
Like many said here, there is NO salary range for any permit.
L, B or C.
Since they try to pull a fast one on you, I suggest that they will probably exploit you if you do work for them.
I think Aldi is in trouble for under-paying their employees recently and since then many people have stopped supporting them.
Forget it, life is too short to work for such scum bags!
HAT
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26.11.2006, 11:00
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Hi Ritara,
what's your job description/title? then I can tell you the salary range, there are also some websites that will give levels but I have worked here over 20 yrs at senior mngt level & can give you some advice.
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01.02.2007, 11:23
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For what its worth. I came here in August 2006 and am on an L permit as they had run out of B permits in my Canton. I can assure you, that you are being conned. My salary is in excess of 200,000 chf a year which is approx 17000 chf a month. Dont be cheated.
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01.02.2007, 11:40
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| | | Re: L permit salary range | Quote: | |  | | | For what its worth. I came here in August 2006 and am on an L permit as they had run out of B permits in my Canton. I can assure you, that you are being conned. My salary is in excess of 200,000 chf a year which is approx 17000 chf a month. Dont be cheated. | | | | | I reckon you aren't employed as a "PR rep in a jewelry store" either.
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01.02.2007, 11:53
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| | | Re: L permit salary range | Quote: | |  | | | For what its worth. I came here in August 2006 and am on an L permit as they had run out of B permits in my Canton. I can assure you, that you are being conned. My salary is in excess of 200,000 chf a year which is approx 17000 chf a month. Dont be cheated. | | | | | I like you, you've dug up an age-old thread to brag about your 200k salary.
Thankfully, you pay higher tax than me. So it's ok
And I don't buy second-hand furniture either | 
01.02.2007, 11:58
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| | | Re: L permit salary range | Quote: | |  | | | I like you, you've dug up an age-old thread to brag about your 200k salary.
Thankfully, you pay higher tax than me. So it's ok 
And I don't buy second-hand furniture either  | | | | |
Haha!!  This guy must be Dutch :P
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01.02.2007, 12:02
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...or feel the need to have more than one job...
dave | Quote: | |  | | | I like you, you've dug up an age-old thread to brag about your 200k salary.
Thankfully, you pay higher tax than me. So it's ok 
And I don't buy second-hand furniture either  | | | | | | 
01.02.2007, 12:03
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| | | Re: L permit salary range | Quote: | |  | | | I like you, you've dug up an age-old thread to brag about your 200k salary.
Thankfully, you pay higher tax than me. So it's ok 
And I don't buy second-hand furniture either  | | | | | Wonderful! | 
01.02.2007, 15:16
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| | | Re: L permit salary range | Quote: | |  | | | I like you, you've dug up an age-old thread to brag about your 200k salary.
Thankfully, you pay higher tax than me. So it's ok 
And I don't buy second-hand furniture either  | | | | | yep, wonderful
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01.02.2007, 18:00
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| | | Re: L permit salary range | Quote: | |  | | | This "poverty line" varies from place to place and is often mistaken for a minimum wage - Switzerland has no such thing.
| | | | | While it is true that Switzerland does not have a minimum wage various cantons do for example in Aargau it is SFr. 3300. That said there is no such thing as a salary range for any permits indeed there is no such thing as a salary range at all in Switzerland unless it is internal company rules, which sort of makes comparisons irrelevant. Companies base there offers on the availability of skills, qualification of the employee and the experience the employee has combined with internal structures. This can and often does mean that two people doing the same job have widely varying remuneration even though the more performant employee is not receiving the more performant salary!
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01.02.2007, 19:51
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| | | Re: L permit salary range | Quote: | |  | | | ... performant...performant... | | | | | No such word in English. Marketing bollocks, whatever | 
02.02.2007, 09:25
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good call!
but was just trying to let the guy know there is no limit on salaries dependent on permit !
ps. not dutch.... anglo! and im not here to spend money . im here for low tax and to extract as much cash as i can so i can bugger off to argentina!
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