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Naturalisation procedure in Geneva / federal authorization from Bern?

Hello everyone,

i know this topic is trending here, but I would like to find out some specific facts about the naturalization procedure in canton of Geneva in 2014.

I know that all candidates got some questionnaires during July 2014 (like ten pages long) and they say these forms can substitute the interview process because OCP staff simply does not have enough time to interview all candidates.

Has anyone got any feedback after sending back these completed questionnaires?

Any further info about the process in 2014 in Geneva will be highly appreciated!

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Please, please, please let me know if someone has a naturalization process in Gva and sent back this questionnaire ( the one I am referring to above)
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Federal authorisation from Bern

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could someone share your naturalisation experience about getting Federal authorisation from Bern? How much time has passed since your canton sent your application to Bern until you got the authorisation itself and paid a fee for it?

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Dear Members,

could someone share your naturalisation experience about getting Federal authorisation from Bern? How much time has passed since your canton sent your application to Bern until you got the authorisation itself and paid a fee for it?

thank you for all answers!
My daughter applied for naturalisation in Geneva as a minor in March 2012. Communal authorisation was October 2014, Federal authorisation was received last week, I picked it up this morning from the Post Office and paid the fee.

I don't know how long the rest of the procedure takes at cantonal level but I'm told the whole procedure can take 4 years.
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Re: Naturalisation procedure in Geneva / federal authorization from Bern?

Thank you so much for your reply!

Me too, I have received the communal approval in October 2014, perhaps I am also on the way to get the federal authorisation...

Could you explain how did you get it? Have you received the usual yellow paper to pick the document from the post?

Thanks again, I really appreciate your answer! Happy Valentine's!
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Thank you so much for your reply!

Me too, I have received the communal approval in October 2014, perhaps I am also on the way to get the federal authorisation...

Could you explain how did you get it? Have you received the usual yellow paper to pick the document from the post?

Thanks again, I really appreciate your answer! Happy Valentine's!
When did you submit your application?
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Re: Naturalisation procedure in Geneva / federal authorization from Bern?

Hi,

I submitted my application in March 2014 - it was quite fast for it to be sent to the commune and Bern...

What about you?
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Hi,

I submitted my application in March 2014 - it was quite fast for it to be sent to the commune and Bern...

What about you?
August 2014, still heard nothing except it's "in process."
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Thank you so much for your reply!

Me too, I have received the communal approval in October 2014, perhaps I am also on the way to get the federal authorisation...

Could you explain how did you get it? Have you received the usual yellow paper to pick the document from the post?

Thanks again, I really appreciate your answer! Happy Valentine's!
Yes, it was a letter from Berne with a fee to pay for collecting it. The certificate itself was signed and dated October 2014 so it took them a while to mail it.

My daughter's is an 'ordinary' application that was submitted by me at the OCP in Geneva nearly 3 years ago. We didn't use a lawyer or anything. Her parents are both British. If I'm not being too nosey what's you're situation? It would perhaps be useful to compare notes.

I've recently attained my 12 years of residence and I'm thinking about applying, if anything such as using a lawyer can speed up the process I'd be interested to know.

Good Luck.
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Yes, it was a letter from Berne with a fee to pay for collecting it. The certificate itself was signed and dated October 2014 so it took them a while to mail it.

My daughter's is an 'ordinary' application that was submitted by me at the OCP in Geneva nearly 3 years ago. We didn't use a lawyer or anything. Her parents are both British. If I'm not being too nosey what's you're situation? It would perhaps be useful to compare notes.

I've recently attained my 12 years of residence and I'm thinking about applying, if anything such as using a lawyer can speed up the process I'd be interested to know.

Good Luck.
Thank you so much for specifying! I am waiting for this letter like for the sun on a rainy day ) I used a lawyer for two things: to ask what happens if I had couple of poursuites and when I received that questionnaire of 10 pages because i did not have any interview! The rest of the procedure was "completed" by myself, lawyer was never mentioned in my application. It went really fast for me, I applied in March 2014 and got the communal approval in October 2014, exactly at the same time the application went to Bern for Federal authorisation. Once you get the Federal authorisation, I think it will go quite fast - for adults there will be a ceremony and for minors just a certificate of naturalization granted, so you can apply for the document itself. Is there anything specific that interests you? I will be happy to answer if I know the details

Thanks again for clarifying about the letter from Bern!

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August 2014, still heard nothing except it's "in process."
Hi,

well, that's OK to be honest, August 2014 is a quite recent date, i know people who have been waiting from 3 to 4 years... You need to be patient now, when OCP in Geneva will finish reviewing your application, they will most likely invite you for interview or you will receive a questionnaire of 10 pages to answer.

When this step is done, it will go to commune and Bern for two final approvals. Once you get the federal authorisation from Bern, you basically can think you have a passport.

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Re: Naturalisation procedure in Geneva / federal authorization from Bern?

My wife and I received cantonal approval of our application in September 2014 after filling out the 10 page supplementary form in August 2014. The good news is that we received today the letter with federal approval. Our understanding is that the canton now needs to hear from the commune (Ville de Gèneve) and then we will be scheduled for a swearing in ceremony.

Does anyone know how the Geneva commune is handling their communal level approval processes and how long this might take?

They were unable to tell us at the cantonal office if in fact we will need an interview at the communal level (in addition to the phone interview we had at the cantonal level).

Any information from those that have been through this "new" process with the supplemental questionnaire would be much appreciated.
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My wife and I received cantonal approval of our application in September 2014 after filling out the 10 page supplementary form in August 2014. The good news is that we received today the letter with federal approval. Our understanding is that the canton now needs to hear from the commune (Ville de Gèneve) and then we will be scheduled for a swearing in ceremony.

Does anyone know how the Geneva commune is handling their communal level approval processes and how long this might take?

They were unable to tell us at the cantonal office if in fact we will need an interview at the communal level (in addition to the phone interview we had at the cantonal level).

Any information from those that have been through this "new" process with the supplemental questionnaire would be much appreciated.
Hi Mont_Blanc!

As far as I know, the communal approval usually comes before the federal approval or at the same time. When Naturalization services in OCP have looked through your application, they sent it to Commune and Bern at the same time. The next step after federal authorisation and communal approval is Conseil d'Etats who just looks at all decisions and directs you to swearing ceremony. Check out the process here: http://www.ge.ch/naturalisations/nat...ique=procedure
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Re: Naturalisation procedure in Geneva / federal authorization from Bern?

Thanks Jackie. Indeed, that is the process that I am in now. The canton approved us first back in September 2014 after receiving the 10 page form and subsequent telephone interview that was introduced in the summer. Once the canton approved us the dossier was sent to the federal level and the communal level for approval. As mentioned, we received the autorisation federale today by post and now have two of the three approvals needed.

My concern is that the Ville de Geneva (commune level) has received thousands of expedited dossiers from the canton and no one seems to know how they are handling them. Does it take a year to go through an internal admin process, is there another interview to be scheduled, etc.?

What I am looking for is if anyone has experience in getting the commune level of approval recently and, if so, how long did it take from the time the cantonal and federal authorisations were received?
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Thanks Jackie. Indeed, that is the process that I am in now. The canton approved us first back in September 2014 after receiving the 10 page form and subsequent telephone interview that was introduced in the summer. Once the canton approved us the dossier was sent to the federal level and the communal level for approval. As mentioned, we received the autorisation federale today by post and now have two of the three approvals needed.

My concern is that the Ville de Geneva (commune level) has received thousands of expedited dossiers from the canton and no one seems to know how they are handling them. Does it take a year to go through an internal admin process, is there another interview to be scheduled, etc.?

What I am looking for is if anyone has experience in getting the commune level of approval recently and, if so, how long did it take from the time the cantonal and federal authorisations were received?
Hi again,

I see what the problem is.. I got my communal approval a week after it has been sent to my commune, which is not Ville de Geneve but one of the local ones. And therefore, my last step now is Federal authorisation from Bern. Your story is completely reverse though.. Let's see if someone answers about their experience with Ville de Geneve, but i remember hearing about 6 months ago that In central commune (Ville de Geneve) applications go faster than in local ones! Strange
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Re: Naturalisation procedure in Geneva / federal authorization from Bern?

Jacky, did you have a phone interview with OCP like we did post the 10 page questionnaire and prior to when they notified you of the Cantonal approval? What did your Commune do? Was it a purely administrative approval that took place or did they visit your home, conduct another interview, etc.? Interesting that you received communal approval in one week - that is very fast. Our dossier and thousands of others are sitting with the Ville de Geneve for 6 months now.
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Jacky, did you have a phone interview with OCP like we did post the 10 page questionnaire and prior to when they notified you of the Cantonal approval? What did your Commune do? Was it a purely administrative approval that took place or did they visit your home, conduct another interview, etc.? Interesting that you received communal approval in one week - that is very fast. Our dossier and thousands of others are sitting with the Ville de Geneve for 6 months now.
Hi Mont_Blanc,

The procedure went the following way: I have applied in March 2014, in May 2014 I have got a document from Etat Civil of OCP where they asked me to state in writing that I am not married. I went there, paid a fee and the documents went back from Etat Civil to naturalisation department of OCP. In July 2014 I got the same questionnaire that you got - I was told that better I complete it, better chances I will have to avoid an interview. I have brought it personally to OCP mid-July 2014. I heard nothing from them until October 2014 when I decided to call and ask what was going on with my file and if they needed anything. I was REALLY surprised when they told me that my file has already left to Bern and to the commune (I live in Collonge-Bellerive). I asked them if I should expect any interview, they told me that the questionnaire was enough. A week and a half after I got a letter from my commune that my naturalisation is approved from their side (I am less than 25 years old, so I just needed a preavis administrative - purely administrative). In your case (if you are older than 25), you will need a preavis municipale, which means that ville de Geneve should quickly discuss your dossier during one of their meetings and the Maire approves it - sometimes they might visit your home, but only if they think it is necessary (as far as I know). So after I got communal approval, I was waiting for Bern´s decision (which is the last one for me as OCP explained). After federal approval, it goes to Conseil des Etats - to direct to the ceremony... That´s all I know!
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Re: Naturalisation procedure in Geneva / federal authorization from Bern?

Much appreciated Jacky. Very interesting the differences between Collonge-Bellerive and Geneva. Geneva has by far the most dossiers of any commune in the canton and the OCP transferred thousands to them in one go with this new procedure. I guess we will have a long wait ahead a the Ville de Genève will have its hands full reviewing all of the candidates. Good luck on the last step in your process. Your first parts went quickly - were you under the "facilitated naturalisation" process or "regular naturalisation"?
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Much appreciated Jacky. Very interesting the differences between Collonge-Bellerive and Geneva. Geneva has by far the most dossiers of any commune in the canton and the OCP transferred thousands to them in one go with this new procedure. I guess we will have a long wait ahead a the Ville de Genève will have its hands full reviewing all of the candidates. Good luck on the last step in your process. Your first parts went quickly - were you under the "facilitated naturalisation" process or "regular naturalisation"?
It was regular procedure, I was a student in Geneva all these years and before reaching 20 years old years count double - that is how I got 12 years of residence.
I hope it speeds up a little bit for you!
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Thanks and good luck to you as well! Make sure to post on the board when your approval comes through.
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