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Unemployment when returning to Switzerland after 2 years abroad

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I had a C-permit in Kanton Zug which I "deposited" when I deregistered.

I left my job voluntarily two years ago.

I now want to return to Switzerland and I would like to know if I would be eligible for any unemployment benefits upon my return.

I am an EU national.

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Old 01.02.2015, 18:03
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Re: Unemployment when returning to Switzerland after 2 years abroad

No, you will get no unemployment help, as it is based on your last 2 years earnings,

http://www.englishforum.ch/search2.php?q=unemployment

You won't get your 'C' back, as you left more than 6 months ago, (few exceptions)

Permit C, leaving Switzerland

Sorry it is probably bad news, but welcome to the Forum...
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Old 01.02.2015, 18:09
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Re: Unemployment when returning to Switzerland after 2 years abroad

I doubt it. I assume you've been in the States for the past 2 years which means you haven't been contributing either in Switzerland or any other EU state. As such your salary - which the benefits are based on - has been zero as far as unemployment benefits here are concerned. If you have been working in an EU country for the past 12 months then I think you might be entitled to 3 months unemployment.
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No, you will get no unemployment help, as it is based on your last 2 years earnings,

http://www.englishforum.ch/search2.php?q=unemployment

You won't get your 'C' back, as you left more than 6 months ago, (few exceptions)

Permit C, leaving Switzerland

Sorry it is probably bad news, but welcome to the Forum...
Thanks for the replies regarding the unemployment benefits.

@sbrinz:
I have a "Zusicherung der Aufenthaltsbewilligung" from the Amt Fuer Migration in Zug that's valid until 29th of Sep 2017.

I was of the impression (and that is certainly also what I told the lady at the AfM) that I my permit would be "stored" until the 29th of Sep. 2017.

Can you confirm that I am mistaken?
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Re: Unemployment when returning to Switzerland after 2 years abroad

Yes, if it's been put on hold you will get it back. But no unemployment help I'm afraid.
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Old 01.02.2015, 18:44
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Re: Unemployment when returning to Switzerland after 2 years abroad

Sorry I cannot confirm, but after reading stuff on this forum: after 6 months absence, unless you are sent abroad to work by a Swiss company, your permit is not on ice, it is down the drain (I did write above "few exceptions")

You would do well to learn how to search the Forum. In the box at top right, type: C +Permit ... and then choose Google search. Please also realize that things change very slowly here, and a post from 2009 is probably still valid.
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Re: Unemployment when returning to Switzerland after 2 years abroad

Okay, thank you for your help.
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Re: Unemployment when returning to Switzerland after 2 years abroad

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Sorry I cannot confirm, but after reading stuff on this forum: after 6 months absence, unless you are sent abroad to work by a Swiss company, your permit is not on ice, it is down the drain (I did write above "few exceptions")

You would do well to learn how to search the Forum. In the box at top right, type: C +Permit ... and then choose Google search. Please also realize that things change very slowly here, and a post from 2009 is probably still valid.
I think you'll find you can ask to "out on ice" for up to 2 years but you have to ask before you leave and it has to be accepted by the canton also before you leave
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Re: Unemployment when returning to Switzerland after 2 years abroad

On the back page of the 'C' permit it states you can apply for an absent period abroad of up to 4 years. This is done in writing, within the first 6 months, and after you have left Switzerland. The approval is only usually given for employment by a Swiss company, or in Swiss military service.

https://www.ch.ch/en/renewal-overvie...idence-permit/

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Re: Unemployment when returning to Switzerland after 2 years abroad

Google translate gives "Zusicherung der Aufenthaltsbewilligung" as "guarantee of permit". So it seems he did put the permit on hold and is entitled to get it back.
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Google translate gives "Zusicherung der Aufenthaltsbewilligung" as "guarantee of permit". So it seems he did put the permit on hold and is entitled to get it back.
Thanks Medea.

I specifically asked the Gemeinde to put my permit on hold for the maximum amount of time (4 years). The reason I gave was "Looking for jobs abroad". I had already resigned my job.

@sbrinz. Rules can vary from Canton to Canton, thus Zug might be different.

A pity about the unemployment benefits.
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Old 01.02.2015, 19:30
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...A pity about the unemployment benefits.
It is, but look at it from the flip side. If you've not been paying into the system for the past two years, why should you be able to walk back in the door and start getting money? You certainly didn't just move to the U.S. and jump on unemployment there, did you?
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Thanks Medea.

I specifically asked the Gemeinde to put my permit on hold for the maximum amount of time (4 years). The reason I gave was "Looking for jobs abroad". I had already resigned my job.

@sbrinz. Rules can vary from Canton to Canton, thus Zug might be different.

A pity about the unemployment benefits.
I think you were extremely lucky actually. Looking for jobs abroad would certainly not be an accepted reason these days in any canton for putting a permit on hold. As Sbrinz says Swiss employer sending you abroad for work purposes, military service and further education are the only ones that apply usually. For anything else you have to make a REALLY good case for why you should be allowed to put your permit on hold.

If you're going to be looking for jobs abroad, you're not looking for any here and so no longer need a resident permit. That's the way most cantons will see it, but maybe Zug is more laid back about it.
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Old 01.02.2015, 19:39
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Re: Unemployment when returning to Switzerland after 2 years abroad

You may be able to regain a residence permit, after application to the Swiss embassy where you now live, maybe you can get a permit B again,

http://www.admin.ch/ch/e/rs/1/142.20.en.pdf

Section 3, Art. 30 para 1 sub k
Section 3, Art. 34

Added a link to a previous thread about the 'C' permit,

Permit C, leaving Switzerland

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