Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Permits/visas/government
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04.03.2015, 12:55
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: freiburg
Posts: 19
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Freiburg has no particular reputation at present
American in Switzerland

Hi everybody!

Following Situation:
My Boyfriend is an American. Im German (therefor Im sorry for my bad english)
He studys in Germany. I live an work in Germany.
He wants to live in Germany and work in Basel.
1. How difficult is it for an american to get a job in switzerland?
2. Would it be easier if we would be married?
3. Which job searching machine can you recommend?

Thanks for your help !!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04.03.2015, 13:40
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Misery-Courtion
Posts: 13,471
Groaned at 169 Times in 134 Posts
Thanked 9,605 Times in 5,488 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: American in Switzerland

1. How difficult is it for an american to get a job in switzerland? VERY! It's even more difficult for a non-EU national to get a G (cross border) permit to work in Switzerland. Non-EU hiring process is outlined here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...zulassung.html

2. Would it be easier if we would be married? No, not unless you move to Switzerland.
3. Which job searching machine can you recommend? Depends on what he's studying/planning to do for work.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Medea Fleecestealer for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 04.03.2015, 13:41
outrage's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Basel
Posts: 171
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 83 Times in 49 Posts
outrage is considered knowledgeableoutrage is considered knowledgeableoutrage is considered knowledgeable
Re: American in Switzerland

Your boyfriend needs a permit to work in Switzerland, or have Swiss nationality.

If he has specific skills that employers want, a prospective employer can apply for a B or a G permit. When he applies to a job, an employer will decide whether he has got skills that are sufficiently in demand to justify employing a foreigner. This would, for example, be true of some specialist IT skills.

There are a lot of places to search for jobs. jobs.ch is one example. All the big employers in Basel, e.g. Novartis and Roche, have web sites where they post job vacancies. The best way to find a job is through networking, so getting involved in the expat scene in Basel might help.
__________________
Nic Oatridge
www.swisswintersports.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04.03.2015, 14:19
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: freiburg
Posts: 19
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Freiburg has no particular reputation at present
Re: American in Switzerland

he is in the environment industry....
but if we get married after 2 years he could have the german passport, right?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04.03.2015, 14:24
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Misery-Courtion
Posts: 13,471
Groaned at 169 Times in 134 Posts
Thanked 9,605 Times in 5,488 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: American in Switzerland

Quote:
View Post
he is in the environment industry....
but if we get married after 2 years he could have the german passport, right?
Only if he's willing to give up his American citizenship to get a German one. Germany doesn't really allow other citizenships.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...by_entitlement
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04.03.2015, 14:30
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: freiburg
Posts: 19
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Freiburg has no particular reputation at present
Re: American in Switzerland

can you not have a double citizienship?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04.03.2015, 14:51
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Letzeburg
Posts: 1,970
Groaned at 68 Times in 51 Posts
Thanked 5,005 Times in 1,780 Posts
crazygringo has a reputation beyond reputecrazygringo has a reputation beyond reputecrazygringo has a reputation beyond reputecrazygringo has a reputation beyond reputecrazygringo has a reputation beyond reputecrazygringo has a reputation beyond repute
Re: American in Switzerland

why would he not simply live and work in Germany? German businesses are recruiting rather heavily outside of Europe, both for students and experienced professionals, and the country offers expedited permanent residency and naturalization for persons demonstrating rather basic signs of integration, e.g. language.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04.03.2015, 15:05
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: freiburg
Posts: 19
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Freiburg has no particular reputation at present
Re: American in Switzerland

his german is not the best and in germany are not so many international companys. in switzerland are more... therefor he wanted to go to switzerland. to find there a english speaking company is easier to find than in the area we live
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04.03.2015, 15:18
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Misery-Courtion
Posts: 13,471
Groaned at 169 Times in 134 Posts
Thanked 9,605 Times in 5,488 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: American in Switzerland

Quote:
View Post
can you not have a double citizienship?
No, Germany doesn't allow it for non-EU nationals. From my link:

"Applicants for naturalisation are normally expected to prove they have renounced their existing nationality, or will lose this automatically upon naturalisation. An exception applies to those unable to give up their nationality easily (such as refugees). A further exception applies to citizens of Switzerland and the European Union member states."

Due to the US government putting up the fee to renounce from $450 to $2,350 there are reports here, on Toytown Germany and Isaac Brock Society websites that Germany is now allowing people to naturalise before giving up their American citizenship which means they can relinquish instead of renouncing and hence save themselves $2,350. This may be because there's a hardship clause in German law which says if it costs over a certain amount to lose your other citizenship then you don't have to do so when you gain German citizenship. As Germany doesn't want people having another citizenship this makes it easier for Americans to give up their US one without the extra cost.

Bear in mind too that to naturalise I think your boyfriend will also need to fulfill other conditions such as German language proficiency, even if he is married to you. My link gives the details.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04.03.2015, 15:39
Ttamasle's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: ZH, AaA
Posts: 765
Groaned at 6 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 895 Times in 325 Posts
Ttamasle has a reputation beyond reputeTtamasle has a reputation beyond reputeTtamasle has a reputation beyond reputeTtamasle has a reputation beyond reputeTtamasle has a reputation beyond repute
Re: American in Switzerland

Quote:
View Post
his german is not the best and in germany are not so many international companys. in switzerland are more... therefor he wanted to go to switzerland. to find there a english speaking company is easier to find than in the area we live
The only thing that i see as a possibility is to work for a Swiss firm that will require him to work out of country. For jobs in country, he would need B2 level german and french in addition to english....in addition to being better qualified than a local candidate. I have an acquaintance, german with a SWISS PhD in enviro, speaks fluent english...and she has been searching for work for a year now.

He may, depending on his field, could approach some of the academia places for a paid PhD position. These may be the only option...and also assumes he can speak some german/french.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04.03.2015, 22:54
kayakdad's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Basel
Posts: 58
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 50 Times in 26 Posts
kayakdad has earned some respectkayakdad has earned some respect
Re: American in Switzerland

Unfortunately, I can say that as a US citizen who has been married to a UK citizen for 5 years (living in the UK for 10), that being married to an EU citizen does not improve his chances of getting a permit. I've already signed a contract and they are struggling to get my permit approved. Switzerland does not seem too keen on admitting Non-EU at the moment. I do wish you the best of luck and hope that it works out.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05.03.2015, 12:27
Samaire13's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: CH
Posts: 2,317
Groaned at 58 Times in 45 Posts
Thanked 3,429 Times in 1,345 Posts
Samaire13 has a reputation beyond reputeSamaire13 has a reputation beyond reputeSamaire13 has a reputation beyond reputeSamaire13 has a reputation beyond reputeSamaire13 has a reputation beyond reputeSamaire13 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: American in Switzerland

Additionally to what's been explained already, a comment on this:

Quote:
View Post
He studys in Germany. I live an work in Germany.
He wants to live in Germany and work in Basel.
A cross-border permit is only and option if he has lived in the border zone (i.e. for Basel area, that would be anything with a postal code of 79xxx in Germany) for an extended period of time and therefore has a residence permit for that specific area. So for instance, if he studied in Munich, there is absolutely no chance for a cross-border permit even in the best of circumstances.

That is of course on top of everything else that's been explained, specifically the restrictive non-EU hiring policies - which always (!) apply, whether going for a cross-border or residence permit.

Also, chances that any Swiss company can justify hiring a recent grad is close to zero. He's doesn't fulfil any of the criteria necessary to be eligible for a permit - no recent graduate does, btw.

Sorry if this comes across as harsh, but this plan he has will be terribly difficult to follow through, I dare say pretty much impossible. I think he has to strike Switzerland off the list and try to find a job in Germany instead.

The only sort-of-'easy' solution is academia, but even then...
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Samaire13 for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
American working in Switzerland goswiss Employment 8 05.09.2013 09:18
American Beer in Switzerland LuzernOutdoorGuy Food and drink 17 11.08.2012 01:26
american in switzerland k8ter Permits/visas/government 3 27.04.2010 14:04
american in switzerland the bryant family Permits/visas/government 3 14.03.2009 14:36
New American in Switzerland sdomin3 Introductions 9 16.04.2007 21:19


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:44.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0