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Cost of becoming Swiss

I have just found out I am eligible to become Swiss. My only questions is does anyone know how much it will cost?
I am married to a Swiss person and have lived here more than 5 years and the last year etc. (The foreign spouse of a Swiss national who has lived in Switzerland for at least five years, has lived here for one year, and has lived in conjugal community with the Swiss spouse for three years).
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

Have vague recollections of seeing something around CHF2,500-3,000? Do you meet the other requirements? Language proficiency? Integration?
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

I don't know what the integration requirements are but there are no language requirements. Being married to a Swiss makes it much easier and hopefully cheaper.
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

You could start reading here . . .

https://www.ch.ch/en/simplified-naturalisation/
(German) https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/de/home...gebuehren.html

Not included the optional passport or the cost of getting copies of any documents you may require.
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Old 05.03.2015, 17:16
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

I just went through this process in Zürich, and the cost was about 900 CHF. 750 of this was for the application itself (when the final decision is made from the federal side, you'll get a notice from the post to pick up a letter-for 750 CHF). However, you also need some official documents that state that you don't owe money and aren't otherwise a criminal, and you'll need an official copy of your Heimatschein (I think that's right-basically the document that says you're Swiss, given from your new home town, which isn't Zurich, but your husband's home town). Because these cost around 30-40 CHF per document, that added another approximately 150 CHF to the total.

Total time in Zürich is less than a year for facilitated naturalization.
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Old 05.03.2015, 17:19
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I don't know what the integration requirements are but there are no language requirements. Being married to a Swiss makes it much easier and hopefully cheaper.
No formal test, no. But you'd be expected to converse at your interview in German.

"The city council said that it would become apparent during the course of the interview how well applicants had settled into Switzerland, with their knowledge of German to be just one area assessed."

http://www.zurich4you.ch/no_language...tizenship.html

If you can't speak the language how integrated can you be into Swiss life?

Also did this law pass or not? I can't remember.

http://www.thelocal.ch/20120130/2421

C permit holders only need apply if it did.
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

Regarding the integration issue, at least in Zurich the requirements are rather lax. There is no formal language requirement, meaning that you don't need to have a certificate stating your proficiency. And, honestly, in Zurich, you don't need much German.

For the interview, a police officer visited my flat (unannounced, at 8:00 on a Saturday morning ). He asked me some basic questions about Switzerland and my family situation. The conversation was in German, but my fluency is only A2, and I managed just fine.

Other questions regarding integration centered around my children (who go to day care and speak Swiss-German) and my employment by a Swiss entity (the ETH). Also, lucky me, we had a Zopf on the table and the children were eating slices spread thick with butter, clearly showing our integration .
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Also did this law pass or not? I can't remember.

http://www.thelocal.ch/20120130/2421

C permit holders only need apply if it did.
I don't think that would apply for facilitated naturalisation in any case. The rules for language, integration etc are much less stringent than they are for normal naturalisation.
They're more concerned about making sure it's a legitimate marriage and not a sham to get the citizenship.
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I don't think that would apply for facilitated naturalisation in any case. The rules for language, integration etc are much less stringent than they are for normal naturalisation.
They're more concerned about making sure it's a legitimate marriage and not a sham to get the citizenship.
Yes, I got to thinking that after I made the post. Not everyone married to a Swiss national would have a C permit after 5 years so B would still be okay.
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

Humor/Humour/Sarcasm Alert: If you have to ask how much it costs to become Swiss, you are not ready to be Swiss.

(I have learned that, in this forum, one must blatantly point out when one is trying to be tongue-in-cheek. Also, I know you see what I did there with my spellings.)

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If you have to ask how much it costs to become Swiss, you are not ready to be Swiss.
He was just checking it was expensive enough to be a Swiss quality naturalization.
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

Fees + 1 human soul
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

if you are married to a swiss it costs you 750 CHF, at least in Kanton Zug.

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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

If you are asking, you are not yet ready to be swiss...
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If you are asking, you are not yet ready to be swiss...
I know plenty of Swiss people who don't have much money or "proper" jobs
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

CHF 300.

Also, if you are male, you get to join the Army!

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Also, if you are male, you get to join the Army!

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Tom, do you happen to know if there's an age limit to be elegible?
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

27 as I recall, but if you are too old to join, you still need to pay 2% military tax until a certain age.

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Interesting, thanks for the info!
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Re: Cost of becoming Swiss

You become exempt from the army if you get the "rote Pass" after the age of 25. You also go straight into the 2% wage bucket and don't have a choice of doing Zivilschutz. Luckily you only have to pay the 2% until you are 30. Which is this year for me thank god.

Would of loved to been paid to get fit for 3 weeks a year and drive around in a tank..gutting

I seem to remember my swiss passport was around 3000 CHF, it's also based on how many gemeindes you have lived in the past and also depends where you live. I for example had to do a german exam, a written exam about the history of switzerland and an interview with a politican (this was in Opfikon, Zurich) but have heard other people in different gemeindes who have had to jump through different hoops.
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