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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

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Pity the American one doesn't work in the same way. It would make losing the blue passport SO much easier.
I think it does, precondition being that the parents didn't notify the US of the childs birth (must happen before age 18 I think) - basically the same as for CH citizenship.

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No, it's not provisional.

Regarding the naturalization process, it can be taken away only in case the applicant was hiding or misinforming with regards to essential requirements linked to the process itself (yes, a sham marriage could be a case of this category).

With regards to the crime thing, it's linked to national security aspects, and afaik, also valid for born Swiss. Possible only in case the interested person still holds another nationality, however.
Correct, simplified naturalization isn't provisional. However, the marriage must be stable (i.e. neither husband nor wife harboring thoughts of separation or divorce) at the time of naturalization. Apparently, the authorities deem 3 years the minimal time frame for such thoughts/action to evolve, and conclude that otherwise the simplified naturalization may have been based on false pretence - just a (strong?) indication, not proof (which is what's required for revocation) in and of itself.

Based on what Random85 writes in another thread, hers should indeed get revoked if what she wrote there becomes ever known.

And yes, CH nationality can only be taken away if the person has dual citizenship. Though dual/single citizenship is irrelevant with respect of nullification of a simplified naturalization (I'm not implying you said so, just clarifying).

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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

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I think it does, precondition being that the parents didn't notify the US of the childs birth (must happen before age 18 I think) - basically the same as for CH citizenship.
Getting off topic, I know, but no, a US citizen born abroad doesn't cease to be a citizen if not registered (i.e., issued a Consular Report of Birth Abroad) by a particular age, though if one is not ever registered (a process that involves confirming that the US citizen parent or parents meet the physical-presence-in-the-US requirement to transmit citizenship to the next generation), I'm not sure the US authorities would be able to insist on treating the child as a citizen.
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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

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I think it does, precondition being that the parents didn't notify the US of the childs birth (must happen before age 18 I think) - basically the same as for CH citizenship.



Correct, simplified naturalization isn't provisional. However, the marriage must be stable (i.e. neither husband nor wife harboring thoughts of separation or divorce) at the time of naturalization. Apparently, the authorities deem 3 years the minimal time frame for such thoughts/action to evolve, and conclude that otherwise the simplified naturalization may have been based on false pretence - just a (strong?) indication, not proof (which is what's required for revocation) in and of itself.

Based on what Random85 writes in another thread, hers should indeed get revoked if what she wrote there becomes ever known.

And yes, CH nationality can only be taken away if the person has dual citizenship. Though dual/single citizenship is irrelevant with respect of nullification of a simplified naturalization (I'm not implying you said so, just clarifying).

Is this a threat ? Really , I am being bullied and theratened on a forum because I wrote that sometimes i am unhappy in my marriage ? Where the he## are you from Saudi? 90 percent of marriages are not perfect and happy all the time . my mistake for airing it on a forum, your sick for threatening me for it. I am not considering leaving my husband , nor Switzerland. I have a great job, that I have had since the day I arrived . You need to back off buddy

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Old 21.03.2015, 16:06
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Re: How long should I wait for swiss passport?

Even in a non sham marriage, in case of a nasty divorce, nothing to stop the swiss partner from claiming it was a sham...
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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

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I am not considering leaving my husband , nor Switzerland. I have a great job, that I have had since the day I arrived . You need to back off buddy
Really? You hint otherwise....

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....I need to be clever and outsmart him , all this takes time and careful planning ...... sitting quietly and giving him enough rope to hang himself is the intelligent way of doing this. ....

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Re: How long should I wait for swiss passport?

So as an answer i got it, that I should wait from 12 to 18 months.
so you mean this cannot happen earlier?


Am I right?


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Old 21.03.2015, 22:07
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So as an answer i got it, that I should wait from 12 to 18 months.
so you mean this cannot happen earlier?


Am I right?


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Nobody knows! It is different for everybody. I have heard of the odd person that got it in just under a year, others more like 18 months. You just have to wait and see.
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Old 21.03.2015, 22:35
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Nobody knows! It is different for everybody. I have heard of the odd person that got it in just under a year, others more like 18 months. You just have to wait and see.

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