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How long should I wait for swiss passport?

Does anybody now how long should i wait tilli have swiss passport

The truth is I am married with a swiss woman for more than 6 years,
And last year my wife said to me Why don't you apply for swiss passport?
I came in Switzerland for the first time on June 2009, and I applied on Aug/2014

They Replied (Bundensamt für Migration) that everything is OK but you should wait. There are about 7 months that i waited and nothing.

But i've heard that some people in the same situation like me they received it for 6 months! Is this true? Or Do you members of this Forum know anything about this?


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Old 19.03.2015, 19:13
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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

It seems to take 12-18 months.
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Old 19.03.2015, 19:20
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It seems to take 12-18 months.

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Do you think that this can't happen eralier?
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Old 19.03.2015, 19:28
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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

It seems to depend on the canton, some process things more quickly than others.
12 months seems to be about the norm around here.
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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

I moved here September 2006. Just got mine this week . I have been working since Sept 02 2006, and married in 2007. good luck, I was told if I left my husband in the next 3 years it will be taken away
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I moved here September 2006. Just got mine this week . I have been working since Sept 02 2006, and married in 2007. good luck, I was told if I left my husband in the next 3 years it will be taken away
If you have Swiss citizenship it cannot be taken away from you. And, referencing your other thread, you also have no problem with leaving him and finding another job for yourself.

Art. 57b92

1 A woman who has acquired Swiss citizenship by marriage under Article 3 paragraph 1 of this Act in its version of 29 September 1952 retains Swiss citizenship after the marriage has been declared invalid provided she married in good faith.

http://www.admin.ch/ch/e/rs/1/141.0.en.pdf


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If you have Swiss citizenship it cannot be taken away from you. And, referencing your other thread, you also have no problem with leaving him and finding another job for yourself.

Art. 57b92

1 A woman who has acquired Swiss citizenship by marriage under Article 3 paragraph 1 of this Act in its version of 29 September 1952 retains Swiss citizenship after the marriage has been declared invalid provided she married in good faith.

http://www.admin.ch/ch/e/rs/1/141.0.en.pdf

I guess it's the good faith thing that could come in to play here.
If they thought she'd married him in order to get aSwiss passport and they separated soon after the passport ( citizenship) was issued they may think the marriage was a sham all along. It could look a bit suspicious to them I guess and they may do some digging.
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I moved here September 2006. Just got mine this week . I have been working since Sept 02 2006, and married in 2007. good luck, I was told if I left my husband in the next 3 years it will be taken away

When did you apply for swisspass? Date and year please

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If you have Swiss citizenship it cannot be taken away from you. And, referencing your other thread, you also have no problem with leaving him and finding another job for yourself.

Art. 57b92

1 A woman who has acquired Swiss citizenship by marriage under Article 3 paragraph 1 of this Act in its version of 29 September 1952 retains Swiss citizenship after the marriage has been declared invalid provided she married in good faith.

http://www.admin.ch/ch/e/rs/1/141.0.en.pdf

Under the citizenship law, a naturalization can be annulled if it was obtained on false pretenses or through the concealment of a material fact (Art. 41), and citizenship can be revoked (Art. 48) if the holding of Swiss citizenship by a dual national is deemed seriously prejudicial to the interest or reputation of Switzerland. But I'm sure it's not the case that the dissolution of a marriage entered into in good faith would provide grounds for the annulment of a naturalization.
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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

Getting back to the question posted by the OP, I'm also in (AG) and got a letter telling that my application was accepted and federal level. Is that the same letter you are referring to?

On it I could read one has to wait 2 months, 30 days for local appeals and i'm guessing the other 30 days for "paperwork" to make things official i believe. Then after that I guess is a question of updating Family Book and requesting the ID and Passport (if needed).

Now, about Random85, is not winter time anymore so i'm guessing you have time to make a trip and look at things in time and from a certain distance, can you consider that as an option?

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Old 20.03.2015, 09:10
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If you have Swiss citizenship it cannot be taken away from you.
Yes it can. It is provisional for the first few years (forget exactly how many, 3 I think) and can be removed if, for example, you commit a major crime or (as others have written) if the authorities decide the marriage was a sham only designed to acquire Swiss citizenship.
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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

i applied in 2012... every canton is different , my canton is over run by SVP lovers .
good luck
fyi... i think they are changing the policy this year that you must take the exam even if your married to a Swiss. I didnt have to because I have been working and married for the last 8 years or so. however on my paperwork after i was accepted it did state that you must remain married for at least 3 years after , or the pass gets taken away. most will not agree with me , this is just what MY forms said from Bern
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i applied in 2012... every canton is different , my canton is over run by SVP lovers
Actually it's not. With only 9 seats out of 120 it is one of the SVP's weakest kantons.


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fyi... i think they are changing the policy this year that you must take the exam even if your married to a Swiss.
Really? Any link to this?

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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

just read it in the paper last week
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i live in the canton , i live with these people ... its a very big canton, i assure you the majority of the people in surselva are SVP. unless you live here and communicate with these people everyday , your oppinion doesnt matter to me , or your charts
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Yes it can. It is provisional for the first few years (forget exactly how many, 3 I think) and can be removed if, for example, you commit a major crime or (as others have written) if the authorities decide the marriage was a sham only designed to acquire Swiss citizenship.
No, it's not provisional.


Regarding the naturalization process, it can be taken away only in case the applicant was hiding or misinforming with regards to essential requirements linked to the process itself (yes, a sham marriage could be a case of this category).


With regards to the crime thing, it's linked to national security aspects, and afaik, also valid for born Swiss. Possible only in case the interested person still holds another nationality, however.
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No, it's not provisional.


Regarding the naturalization process, it can be taken away only in case the applicant was hiding or misinforming with regards to essential requirements linked to the process itself (yes, a sham marriage could be a case of this category).


With regards to the crime thing, it's linked to national security aspects, and afaik, also valid for born Swiss. Possible only in case the interested person still holds another nationality, however.
Maybe not called provisional but when I got mine it was definitely accompanied with a letter telling me it could be revoked if I went around murdering people or suchlike within a certain length of time.

This is definitely NOT the case for anyone born Swiss.
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Re: How lond should I wait for swisspassport?

Imho not true as stated.


It's Art. 48 BüG with regards to citizenship revoked in case of danger for the country (never applied, so far),
and Art. 41 BüG with regards to the process itself (Lustenberger Motion), within 8 years after the naturalization act.

The Fehr Motion (the guy with the illegal housekeeper) was declined by NC in March 2008, however.


Furthermore, adoption matters could imply effects on citizenship,

and - very odd, and people often don't know - children of Swiss residing abroad have to be listed by Swiss foreign representative institutions within their 22nd year of life, in order to keep their Swiss nationality. If they or their parents forget, they will lose it (but are eligible for facilitated naturalization), always if they are holders of another citizenship.


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I didnt have to because I have been working and married for the last 8 years or so. however on my paperwork after i was accepted it did state that you must remain married for at least 3 years after , or the pass gets taken away. most will not agree with me , this is just what MY forms said from Bern
This would be illegal.
What could happen, however, is an inspection of a situation, if the time of marriage leads to a suspect that it could be a sham one. Imho not in your case, if you are married for such a long time.

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and - very odd, and people often don't know - children of Swiss residing abroad have to be listed by Swiss foreign representative institutions within their 22nd year of life, in order to keep their Swiss nationality. If they or their parents forget, they will lose it (but are eligible for facilitated naturalization).
Pity the American one doesn't work in the same way. It would make losing the blue passport SO much easier.
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