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Visas for IT guys

Hey there,

my company is an SMB trying to recruit worldwide to fill our web development team that runs on Python/Flask, MongoDB, Elasticsearch, RedHat, Docker, HTML5, JQuery, and Gulp.

Since competent people using these technologies are hard to find, we reach out globally.

How hard is it for us to sponsor Visas for non-EU citizens? (US, India, Russia, China).

No one in the company really has any knowledge about this but I have heard that to do this I at least have to proof that a potential candidate has special skills that currently can not be found in Switzerland.
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Old 20.03.2015, 08:15
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How hard is it for us to sponsor Visas for non-EU citizens? (US, India, Russia, China).
I can't answer that question, but I can pose another. If you have knowledgeable people already with those technologies, how hard is it for you to locally recruit motivated people with some experience and train them internally in these specific technologies 'on-the-job' ? It will depend on your current staffing, workload and required ramp-up speed, but it's surely the best way to organically grow if you can achieve it. I think often that recruiters dismiss someone because a certain buzzword technology is not on the CV, but the candidate would have the aptitude to adapt and learn on the job (which is what most people do when they are in jobs that evolve).
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Hey there,

my company is an SMB trying to recruit worldwide to fill our web development team that runs on Python/Flask, MongoDB, Elasticsearch, RedHat, Docker, HTML5, JQuery, and Gulp.

Since competent people using these technologies are hard to find, we reach out globally.

How hard is it for us to sponsor Visas for non-EU citizens? (US, India, Russia, China).

No one in the company really has any knowledge about this but I have heard that to do this I at least have to proof that a potential candidate has special skills that currently can not be found in Switzerland.
There is more info on the whole issue here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...gehoerige.html

What you need to do is outlined in the first sub-link.

And you are not applying for a visa, you are applying for a permit. A visa is something different and something the job applicant has to apply for at the Swiss embassy/consulate in their home country or country of current residence. It simply allows them to enter Switzerland long term (Type D visa) legally once the permit for the job has been approved. Without permit approval, they won't get the visa.
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Re: Visas for IT guys

Lots of people in the EU who have those skills, they just will want more $$ than someone from living in a 3rd world country.
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Re: Visas for IT guys

@maxiii is it cool if I pm you? I'm interested in moving to Switzerland and I'd like to hear more about this opening, if it's something your going to proceed with. It sounds like it's right up my alley with the technologies you mentioned.
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Re: Visas for IT guys

From personal experience - and what many would also tell you - it is EXTREMELY hard to sponsor an employment visa in CH. In all cases, the jobs need to have high level of specializations, i.e. phD in a niche field, or you have to be a big fat investment bank that can offer 200k salary for an executive position. Python / HTML coding jobs aren't niche enough, sorry.

However, I have a helpful suggestion: your company can offer a long term internship via AIESEC, and you might just find a student pursuing advanced degree, with relevant experience. It's a long shot, but I have seen this option work for some SMBs. Of course, you cannot offer pay of 100k, otherwise government sees it as "circumvention of law" and can deny the permit.

Basically, the government doesn't want inflow of "cheap" workers, and by Swiss standards 60-80k is cheap. Some companies I know have setup offices or outsourced IT work to Berlin, where you can get good IT talent and yeah.. they speak "decent" German there too!

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@maxiii - I am currently in Switzerland and I specialize in SAP with over 9 years experience. I am on a L permit here, if you are looking for some SAP Consultant and ready to take over my permit, I am interested, please let me know...
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