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C permit without A2 Non-EU

It will be really great if some one can help me.

I am living here in Zurich Since 15 years with continuous job. I do not have A2 certificate and my language learning skills are not good. I get B permit every two years. My wife and kids all have C permit as they all know German. We all are from India and live here in Zurich.

Is it possible to get C permit for me without A2 certificate.
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Old 30.03.2015, 21:38
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

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It will be really great if some one can help me.

I am living here in Zurich Since 15 years with continuous job. I do not have A2 certificate and my language learning skills are not good. I get B permit every two years. My wife and kids all have C permit as they all know German. We all are from India and live here in Zurich.

Is it possible to get C permit for me without A2 certificate.
May I ask what has kept you from trying (multiple times) to improve your learning skills in the past 15 years? Perhaps getting over that might help you get to an A2 or even a B1 level.
Are you dyslexic or is it something else? Knowing what the root of your perceived weak learning skills is could help us help you find a solution.

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Old 30.03.2015, 22:08
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

15 years and no A2

….. My language learning skills are terrible, but with some effort I think anyone can get to A2……. getting beyond that, well I'll let you know if I ever do.
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Old 31.03.2015, 00:27
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15 years and no A2

….. My language learning skills are terrible, but with some effort I think anyone can get to A2……. getting beyond that, well I'll let you know if I ever do.
Depending on kanton and gemeinde you may need B1 to qualify as a non EU
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Old 05.04.2015, 13:23
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

I have another question, dont find any answer to it anywhere. Im from EU, soon been here for 5 years, so Im entitle to apply for the C permit, and then I need the A2 german test. I am getting married to a swiss the month after. Would I need the german test then? Or will this be more "automatic"?
Is not a problem taking the test, but if i dont need i dont want to use money taking the A2 test
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Old 05.04.2015, 13:28
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

No test, but you will need to wait another 5 years.

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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

What you mean wait for another 5 years?
Im trying to figure put if i should just do the test or not if i can apply for it 2 months later without the german test...
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

No it's very simple:
Pass A2 apply for C at 5 years, get married to a Swiss and wait another 5 years. Also in Zug it's B1 now, so spending money on A2 would be a waste.
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

Thanks for answer. So applying for the C permit after 5 years i would need the test in any case, dosent matter if i am married or not? I have a friend from Spain and she didnt need to do any test as she have been her for 5 years and got married to a swiss. So confussing the rules, different for everyone.
Better just to do the test then
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

Nope not confusing or different rules for different people.

The reg's changed in June last year. We were in ktn Zürich and my EU wife renewed her B got a C automatically with no test in March. I had to renew in Sept and Zurich had implemented A2 as a requirement, but we were moving to Zug and they have B1 as a requirement now.
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

You have to be married for 5 years for facillitated (no test).

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Thanks for answer. So applying for the C permit after 5 years i would need the test in any case, dosent matter if i am married or not? I have a friend from Spain and she didnt need to do any test as she have been her for 5 years and got married to a swiss. So confussing the rules, different for everyone.
Better just to do the test then

When did she get married, 5 years ago ?
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Thanks for answer. So applying for the C permit after 5 years i would need the test in any case, dosent matter if i am married or not? I have a friend from Spain and she didnt need to do any test as she have been her for 5 years and got married to a swiss. So confussing the rules, different for everyone.
Better just to do the test then
the language requirement is dependent on your nationality, not EU or non-EU.
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the language requirement is dependent on your nationality, not EU or non-EU.
This was last year when my friend did apply for the C permit. She had then been here for 5 years and married 3 of them i think.
Im from Norway and im living in ZH so here the requirement is A2.
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

Your location say Zug, and the requirement for B1, ZH is A2. If your friend renewed before June then there was potentially no test requirement... but you have one.
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I have a friend from Spain and she didnt need to do any test
Another possible reason might be that for citizens of countries that have signed mutual treaties with Switzerland the language test is not required. Spain is one of those countries.

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/dam...barungen-d.pdf

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and im living in ZH.
By the way, the good folks in ZH have laid the rules out nicely, here:

http://www.ma.zh.ch/internet/sicherh...ewilligung.pdf
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

Hello,

I have a specific question on required documents( http://www.ma.zh.ch/internet/sicherh...ewilligung.pdf ) for language competency for Permit C.

The clause says
"Zertifikat, das dem Ausländer bescheinigt, die deutsche Sprache in Niveau B1 (schriftlich
und mündlich) zu beherrschen (TELC, Goethe oder ÖSD-Zertifikat sowie Diplome des allegra
Sprachzentrums). "

I have a German language participation confirmation for UNCERT 1. UNICERT 1 is equivalent to EU B1 as per http://www.unicert-online.org/en/unicert%C2%AE-levels.

Now question are:
1. Is the successful participation and grades of UNICERT 1 is sufficient?
2. If not then I can give the UNICERT 1 exam to get the UNICERT 1 passing certificate. Then in this case, do somebody know if the authorities accept UNICERT 1 certificate?
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Re: C permit without A2 Non-EU

I have only just got my C permit, I am married to a Swiss citizen 3 years, lived here for 6 years, but I still had to have at least level A2 in German. So I reckon if you want to apply for the C you are going to have to take the A2 test.
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I have only just got my C permit, I am married to a Swiss citizen 3 years, lived here for 6 years, but I still had to have at least level A2 in German. So I reckon if you want to apply for the C you are going to have to take the A2 test.
interesting that as a spouse, you have a language test for the c permit… but not for citizenship
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