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Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

Hi,
I am new to this forum.
I will be traveling to Zurich in June, 2015 on 'L' work permit. I will be applying for a dependent visa for my wife so that she can also travel to Zurich and stay with me.

My wife is currently working and would be leaving her job to accompany me. I wanted to check if there are any options for her to work / study in Switzerland on dependent VISA.

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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

Yes if she can find an employer who can do all the paper work like yours.

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Hi,
I am new to this forum.
I will be traveling to Zurich in June, 2015 on 'L' work permit. I will be applying for a dependent visa for my wife so that she can also travel to Zurich and stay with me.

My wife is currently working and would be leaving her job to accompany me. I wanted to check if there are any options for her to work / study in Switzerland on dependent VISA.

Thanks in advance for your replies!

Best Regards
Aman Goel
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

Hi,
Thanks for your quick reply.
Your reply is for working in Switzerland.

can you tell me if she can study?

Aman
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

Providing she can meet the entrance requirements and speaks a Swiss language well enough to do so, yes. Language schools are obviously not a problem, but if she wants to do a Bachelors course then most of these are taught in a Swiss language so she'd need a good level of understanding to do the course. Many Masters courses are taught in English here though.
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

Yes she can study on dependent L permit. I am not sure if can change her permit to student permit easily or not. In student permit there is possibility to work part time.

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Hi,
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Your reply is for working in Switzerland.

can you tell me if she can study?

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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

Your wife should get the same work permit as you.

I have a L permit for the first year here and my wife also received a L work permit. Mine lists professional, and hers lists family matters. She can work here legally now.
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

Thank you!

Understood language can be a barrier. My question is more towards eligibilty. Is she eligible to study (lets say an online course and not classroom study) under dependent visa?
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Understood language can be a barrier. My question is more towards eligibilty. Is she eligible to study (lets say an online course and not classroom study) under dependent visa?
Keep in mind that as a non-EU, she doesn't automatically have any rights. However as she's American the odds are certainly in your favor. The authorities will look at your contract, housing, income, etc. and many times your spouse can join you even on an L-permit, with the same privileges you have for work. She would probably be allowed to study, again provided she meets the criteria of the school, speaks the language, and can afford the tuition costs. Contact the Zürich migration office for definitive information.
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

I expect your wife has already done bachelors. You should start looking at the website of ETH or UZH to see the eligibility criteria. I am hopeful your wife will find something offered in English. Application process could be very lengthy so I would suggest start looking now and apply. It may take many months to hear about the outcome of the application and then actual start of the course.

Online courses are mainly aimed at the education along with the work and could be expensive. But no one is stopping to take them.

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Understood language can be a barrier. My question is more towards eligibilty. Is she eligible to study (lets say an online course and not classroom study) under dependent visa?
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

Hi,
Thanks for the reply. Yes, she has completed her masters and I have already applied in many organizations with no reply yet.

I am hopeful she gets a job but wanted to keep studies as an option in case she doesnt get a job.

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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

If you could give more details about her education e.g How long was her bachelors + masters? 3+2 yrs or 4+2 yrs? which area?

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Hi,
Thanks for the reply. Yes, she has completed her masters and I have already applied in many organizations with no reply yet.

I am hopeful she gets a job but wanted to keep studies as an option in case she doesnt get a job.

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Understood language can be a barrier. My question is more towards eligibilty. Is she eligible to study (lets say an online course and not classroom study) under dependent visa?
I'm from the US. So, non-EU, 3rd country.

Studying should be fine for your wife. My wife taking intensive German school. She's allowed to get a job now, or go to school.

It will be harder to find a job if you don't speak the language, but at least in Zurich most people speak English.
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

Her bachelors and masters is 3+2 years.

Hi Drewboog, Thanks for the information. I got to read from many forums that you cannot work on dependent visa. The information you provided is useful.
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

She has completed masters in HR area.
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Her bachelors and masters is 3+2 years.

Hi Drewboog, Thanks for the information. I got to read from many forums that you cannot work on dependent visa. The information you provided is useful.
Just so you're clear on terminology:

Visa = the stamp in the passport that allows one to enter the country and stay long-term (as opposed to being a tourist). It's not good for anything except entry.

Permit = the document that allows an individual to live and work/study here. As a non-EU it will be plastic and about the size of a credit card.
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

Yes, I know the difference. Thanks
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Her bachelors and masters is 3+2 years.

Hi Drewboog, Thanks for the information. I got to read from many forums that you cannot work on dependent visa. The information you provided is useful.
There is no automatic right to be able to work with a non-EU L dependent's permit. If she wants to work any potential employer will have to go through the same non-EU hiring process as they did to hire you, i.e. prove that they can't find a Swiss/EU national or someone else already living here who has a valid permit who could do the job. The details are outlined here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...zulassung.html

Drewboog this applies to your wife too if you both hold L permits.

It's quite clear in the Foreign Nationals Act that any L permit dependent getting a job here is subject to authorisation by the Swiss authorities. Simply finding an employer who wants to hire you isn't enough.
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

She can study. And certainly no one can stop her from doing a distance learning/online course.
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Just so you're clear on terminology:

Visa = the stamp in the passport that allows one to enter the country and stay long-term (as opposed to being a tourist). It's not good for anything except entry.

Permit = the document that allows an individual to live and work/study here. As a non-EU it will be plastic and about the size of a credit card.
And VISA is a credit card, literally.
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Re: Dependent Work Permit - Non EU

I don't want to disappoint you but the reality is that bachelor of 3 years in India is not equivalent to the bachelors here. It is considered with lesser credits. If your wife applies for PHD she will be most likely asked to apply for masters again. I know someone with same qualification who faced this issue. HR job market for English speaker non EU is almost non existent.

Doing masters again is not a bad idea at all. Time flies and she will be able to make lot of friends. She will also have access to university resources like language classes, library, gym etc and it would also be much easier to proceed for PHD.

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