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Old 16.04.2015, 21:50
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Re: EU citizen moving to CH with non-EU wife

We will stay in Zurich, we'll just go to the immigration and find out.
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Old 16.04.2015, 22:05
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Re: EU citizen moving to CH with non-EU wife

No, it says pre-approval, not turn up on the doorstep and expect to get it then. Contact them now by phone or e-mail and find out what you need to do to get the pre-approval.

Migrationsamt des Kantons Zürich
Berninastrasse 45
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8090 Zürich
Tel.: 043 259 88 00
Fax: 043 259 88 10
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They may say that's fine just to turn up and then again they may have a load of documents you need to fill in before they'll even consider it, who can say. But I warn you, we've had reports that Zurich migration isn't the easiest of places to deal with so best to follow the rules. What you don't want is your wife being told she has to return to Italy to wait until approval for a permit is given to her.
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Old 17.04.2015, 02:49
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Re: EU citizen moving to CH with non-EU wife

Non-EU spouses of EU citizens residing in the EU do not need visas and they do not need pre-approval to enter Switzerland to reside with their EU family member.

Pre-approval has never been needed and it isn't needed in this case.

Why are we complicating things?
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Old 17.04.2015, 08:22
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Re: EU citizen moving to CH with non-EU wife

Sorry miniMia, but that's wrong.



"Upon arrival in Switzerland, family members must present the following documents:
  • Valid ID card or passport,
  • Visa if applicable,
  • Certificate issued by the authorities in the country of origin proving that the person is related to you,
  • Anyone who will be dependent upon you must present a letter issued by the authorities of the country of origin confirming that you will pay their living expenses."
https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification-eu-efta

I had to get a single entry visa to come here from the UK with my British husband back in 1998 because I travelled with my American passport.

In this case a visa isn't necessary, but pre-approval is as far as I can see from the official sources.
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Old 17.04.2015, 10:42
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Re: EU citizen moving to CH with non-EU wife

I called the immigration in Zurich, the lady told me my wife doesn't need visa or pre-approval, just marriage certificate and valid ID.
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Old 17.04.2015, 11:34
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Sorry miniMia, but that's wrong.



"Upon arrival in Switzerland, family members must present the following documents:
  • Valid ID card or passport,
  • Visa if applicable,
  • Certificate issued by the authorities in the country of origin proving that the person is related to you,
  • Anyone who will be dependent upon you must present a letter issued by the authorities of the country of origin confirming that you will pay their living expenses."
https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification-eu-efta

I had to get a single entry visa to come here from the UK with my British husband back in 1998 because I travelled with my American passport.

In this case a visa isn't necessary, but pre-approval is as far as I can see from the official sources.

Sorry MF, but I am not wrong.

It says clearly 'if applicable'... Non EU spouses of EU citizen with residency permits in the EU (except UK) do not need visas.it is clear in the FMOP agreement. The UK opted out. The OP isn't coming for the UK.

Not only that but the FMOP was put in place after 1998! Lots of other things have changed since then.
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Re: EU citizen moving to CH with non-EU wife

I agree with miniMia and would have posted yesterday if the draconian posting limits were not in place.

In short, spouse of EU == EU. End of.
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Old 28.04.2015, 16:58
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Re: EU citizen moving to CH with non-EU wife

Quick update. We went to the gemeinde in Oberrieden with passports, birth certificates, marriage certificate, rental agreement and my employment contract, that was all they needed.

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Old 17.05.2015, 16:13
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Re: EU citizen moving to CH with non-EU wife

Another update. After a week we all have received our B permits valid for 5 years. My wife's permit cites ''familiennachzug mit erwerbstätigkeit''.

All good!
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Bringing my Canadian wife... D permit or not?

Congrats Jvi, so glad it worked out for you so quickly! We are also in a similar situation, I am German and currently live with my Canadian wife in Canada. We plan to move to Canton Aargau in August and all of a sudden read this thread and realised she should probably have a D permit (oops!) yet when we phone the Canton office they told us she just needs her ID and our marriage certificate basically... So I am confused!

I guess the difference may be that your wife had a residence permit for Schengen already, maybe?

I'm not sure what we should do now... If we submit the application it may not be ready before we planned to fly over, so would we then delay our flights until we have it? Or fly over and risk being turned away at the border... I realise that arriving with a one-way ticket, a huge mound of luggage, a cat, and a declaration of a sea shipment (container) of household goods, there will be no doubt that we are not coming just as tourists so there's no sense lying about it! Ugh... I think we will apply and just hope it comes in time, but I'm nervous about booking the flights before we have it!

Any other experiences with this? Other Canadians out there, what did you do?
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Old 24.05.2015, 22:20
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In my case what they asked was, IDs, marriage certificate, family book, birth certificates for the kids, employment contract and rental contract.
I showed my wife's Italian permanent residency but the lady said it wasn't necessary.
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Re: EU citizen moving to CH with non-EU wife

Called the Aargau office again and they really insisted that we didn't need anything at all before entering the country - but we are just afraid of being turned away at the border so we are applying for the D permits anyhow but if they don't come in time we might risk it. The tricky but is that even though the form says we can apply to accompany a family member who is planning to move (not only for family joining at a later date) the forms require information that we won't have until we get there so I have no idea what our chances are to get the permits without that info... So when we tried to ask them about it on the phone they just told us we didn't need to apply at all!

So confusing....

Will keep you posted!
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