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Looking for a migration agent

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Can anyone recommend a good migration agent for an Australian looking to go to Switzerland?

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Re: Looking for a migration agent

When I moved here, my company paid for Team Relocations to sort everything out. And they were brilliant to be fair, sorted out all the permits / apartments & bills for me as everything was in German.
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Re: Looking for a migration agent

Why would you need a migration agent?

You permit can be organised through the Swiss embassy in Australia. You just need to decide what route you are going down;

- Marry partner and go as dependant
- Apply for Masters and go as student
- Get a job and an independent permit (difficult)
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When I moved here, my company paid for Team Relocations to sort everything out. And they were brilliant to be fair, sorted out all the permits / apartments & bills for me as everything was in German.
Lucky you! I'm going under my own steam though so I only need a migration agent at this stage. But thanks anyway for the input.
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Why would you need a migration agent?

You permit can be organised through the Swiss embassy in Australia. You just need to decide what route you are going down;

- Marry partner and go as dependant
- Apply for Masters and go as student
- Get a job and an independent permit (difficult)
Thanks Island Monkey. Reason is think it would be a good idea to speak to someone who knows all of the options available to me in my specific case. My expat experience is in Asia where using migration agents is common, especially due to hard-to-understand rules and bureaucracy.

So you think there wouldn't be any use in consulting a visa agent in my case? I like the sound of that!
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Re: Looking for a migration agent

We're Australian, too, but are only both allowed to live and work here because of my husband's job. No job, no permits, no Switzerland, to put it bluntly.

Island Monkey's options are really the only ones and I don't think an agent will tell you anything different. They might help smooth the way once you've sorted out a job/marriage/course of study but I don't think they'll be of any great help otherwise.

It's a tough reality for all of us non-EU folk, but that's the way it is.
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Re: Looking for a migration agent

No, because the options Island Monkey lays out are the only ones and an agent couldn't help you. If you're not married to a Swiss/EU national or someone else who lives here and has a permit, or you come as a student, the only way is to obtain a job offer. This would have to be approved by the Swiss authorities before the employer would be allowed to hire you as priority is given to Swiss and EU nationals. The details are outlined here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...zulassung.html

And the actual procedure here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...ensablauf.html

It's not impossible, but it is difficult and it's meant to be. If your qualifications/skills are in demand then the employer will make the effort to hire you. If they're not, they won't - it's that simple.

Here are a few job websites for you to have a look at and see if anything might fit the bill. It'll give you an idea of whether you'd stand any chance of an employer sponsoring you for a permit.

www.jobs.ch
www.jobup.ch
www.monster.co.uk (yes they have jobs in Switzerland, just persuade the location to change - it can be stubborn sometimes)
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We're Australian, too, but are only both allowed to live and work here because of my husband's job. No job, no permits, no Switzerland, to put it bluntly.

Island Monkey's options are really the only ones and I don't think an agent will tell you anything different. They might help smooth the way once you've sorted out a job/marriage/course of study but I don't think they'll be of any great help otherwise.

It's a tough reality for all of us non-EU folk, but that's the way it is.
I see. I'll pursue the study/job options. The rules for non-EU folk aren't great for us but they make sense I guess.

On a positive note I see tuition fees for master's degrees at many universities Switzerland are cheap compared to other places like the UK and the Netherlands. And cheaper than in Australia, of course...
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Re: Looking for a migration agent

Yes, but the living costs may be higher - around CHF21,000 to 31,000 per year.

Also unless you plan to study a Masters, you're going to run into language problems with only English and Indonesian. Most Bachelors are taught in one of the official Swiss languages: German, French or Italian depending on which part of the country your university would be in. Many Masters are taught in English however.

More on studying in Switzerland here:

http://www.temp.crus.ch/information-...rland.html?L=2
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No, because the options Island Monkey lays out are the only ones and an agent couldn't help you. If you're not married to a Swiss/EU national or someone else who lives here and has a permit, or you come as a student, the only way is to obtain a job offer. This would have to be approved by the Swiss authorities before the employer would be allowed to hire you as priority is given to Swiss and EU nationals. The details are outlined here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...zulassung.html

And the actual procedure here:

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...ensablauf.html

It's not impossible, but it is difficult and it's meant to be. If your qualifications/skills are in demand then the employer will make the effort to hire you. If they're not, they won't - it's that simple.

Here are a few job websites for you to have a look at and see if anything might fit the bill. It'll give you an idea of whether you'd stand any chance of an employer sponsoring you for a permit.

www.jobs.ch
www.jobup.ch
www.monster.co.uk (yes they have jobs in Switzerland, just persuade the location to change - it can be stubborn sometimes)
Thanks for the pointers Medea Fleecestealer, very useful. Given the rules are so clear it does look like there wouldn't be much use in using an agent. I'd pay you all in forum thank yous but unfortunately I don't have that privilege yet!
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Yes, but the living costs may be higher - around CHF21,000 to 31,000 per year.

Also unless you plan to study a Masters, you're going to run into language problems with only English and Indonesian. Most Bachelors are taught in one of the official Swiss languages: German, French or Italian depending on which part of the country your university would be in. Many Masters are taught in English however.

More on studying in Switzerland here:

http://www.temp.crus.ch/information-...rland.html?L=2
Yes I have got the message loud and clear from every part of my research -- Switzerland is expensive. Fortunately the courses I have been looking at are taught in English.

I must say I am really liking the clarity of the government information I have been seeing. This must be the reputed Swiss efficiency at work.

Thanks again.
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You'll get there I'm sure for the thanks button. You're bound to have a lot more questions yet.

Yes, Swiss efficiency, but also can be Swiss sticking to the rules obsessively sometimes and if you try and get around them, well just too bad.

Another suggestion for you is to get hold of a copy of "Living and Working in Switzerland" by David Hampshire. It's full of useful info and you can order it from your local bookshop or via the Internet.
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Re: Looking for a migration agent

Also, just in case you aren't yet aware:

If you are here on a student permit (i.e., as a Masters student), you may be able to work a part-time job, but there will be restrictions on the number of hours you can work - I believe it is 15 hours/week - and you will need to be registered as a full-time student (as a non-EU, you won't get a student permit for part-time study).

So make sure you are serious about the Masters degree and don't just use it as a means to get a visa.
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