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Military / civil service after facilitated naturalization

Hi all,

I recently learned that one can apply for facilitated naturalization even when not living in Switzerland (I'm a frontalier) provided one has been married to a Swiss citizen for at least 6 years (almost there) and one has strong ties to Switzerland (I work in Switzerland and make regular visits to the in-laws).

However, the main question is what happens to the military or civil service requirement. More precisely, from what age is one no longer obliged to participate?

We have no plans on leaving the area and may at some point hop over to border to live in Switzerland itself instead of in France, but as an EU citizen, I should be able to get by without naturalization, which to me is preferable if it means I don't have to participate in what, in my opinion, is a form of modern slavery.
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Old 23.04.2015, 16:16
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Re: Military / civil service after facilitated naturalization

LOL I've heard the swiss army called many things, slave drivers isn't one of em, you really should look into what they actually do before you make such an idiotic comment about them.
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Old 23.04.2015, 16:45
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Re: Military / civil service after facilitated naturalization

The Swiss military do virtually nothing and get paid for it… not sure how that is slavery.

Never the less;

You don't have to serve if you are living abroad.
If you are over 30 they won't want you anyway.
If you aren't fluent in a Swiss language, they won't want you.
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The Swiss military do virtually nothing and get paid for it… not sure how that is slavery.
Because it's mandatory. Military service is not exactly my idea of a good time and I'd much rather spend that time on my job that I enjoy and contribute to a professional military through tax payments. Anyway, the discussion regarding pros and cons of military conscriptions is somewhat offtopic here...

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You don't have to serve if you are living abroad.
If you are over 30 they won't want you anyway.
If you aren't fluent in a Swiss language, they won't want you.
Ok, those all apply to me. Thanks for your reply.
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Re: Military / civil service after facilitated naturalization

LOL soooooo much wrong with that post
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The Swiss military do virtually nothing and get paid for it… not sure how that is slavery.

Never the less;

You don't have to serve if you are living abroad.
If you are over 30 they won't want you anyway.
If you aren't fluent in a Swiss language, they won't want you.


The swiss military those the same thing as the Dutch ,Canadian ,British etc etc except go to Afghanistan
. I know I done it ,and one of my kid did the swiss army thing and now he is in the Canadian Navy ( he also was in afghanistan for 9 month ). And for doing nothing and get paid for , yea right
as for the op "Stay away from CH there are already to many here like you :-(

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Re: Military / civil service after facilitated naturalization

I work with one guy whose military job consisted of hanging around waiting for someone to need a ride to or from Lugano train station (he was based at Monte Ceneri, 15 minutes away).

He even got to go home at night, and got weekends off.

So, virtually nothing.

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Re: Military / civil service after facilitated naturalization

swiss guys I've worked with have similar stories, get to play with nice toys, do some camping, get pissed
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I work with one guy whose military job consisted of hanging around waiting for someone to need a ride to or from Lugano train station (he was based at Monte Ceneri, 15 minutes away).

He even got to go home at night, and got weekends off.

So, virtually nothing.

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I know some in the Canadian military witch did exactly the same thing in Afghanistan except go home at night
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swiss guys I've worked with have similar stories, get to play with nice toys, do some camping, get pissed

As I said ! just like in the Dutch ,Canadian or the British army
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Re: Military / civil service after facilitated naturalization

My husband spent his time in the military, letting people in and out of a security gate on base

They'd get the shock of the lives of the went into the British Military!
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My husband spent his time in the military, letting people in and out of a security gate on base

They'd get the shock of the lives of the went into the British Military!

In my extendet fam.(My wife is British ) there are 5 in the British military. I am not impressed
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ce-charge.html


Maybe them should have done noting
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In my extendet fam.(My wife is British ) there are 5 in the British military. I am not impressed
And they don't think it's any different??

My husband didn't even have to have polished boots in the Swiss Army after he finished basic training.. the British have to polish them till they shine… then some more. From what I've seen it's pretty different… but I've never been in either so maybe I'm wrong!
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And they don't think it's any different??

My husband didn't even have to have polished boots in the Swiss Army after he finished basic training.. the British have to polish them till they shine… then some more. From what I've seen it's pretty different… but I've never been in either so maybe I'm wrong!

The germans had polish boots and lost No polished booth here
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Re: Military / civil service after facilitated naturalization

Rannasha, just a question, - because there are so many Dutch people in CH; isn't Holland a wealthy country? Why are your people everywhere? :-)
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swiss guys I've worked with have similar stories, get to play with nice toys, do some camping, get pissed
Bit like working in Zurich then.
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Rannasha, just a question, - because there are so many Dutch people in CH; isn't Holland a wealthy country? Why are your people everywhere? :-)
Yes, it is. And because it was a seafaring country, the descendants still like to explore the world.

So?

And if you check what nationalities are in Switzerland, I do not think Dutch are so abundantly here
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Re: Military / civil service after facilitated naturalization

They are somewhat abundant (purely anedoctal) in Ticino but that's easily explained.
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The swiss military those the same thing as the Dutch ,Canadian ,British etc etc except go to Afghanistan (
I've yet to see a member of the Swiss military wear a uniform properly, including those at the Tattoo. I so want to go jack some of these sh/tbirds up and tell them to square themselves away. Shine your boots. Tie your boots! Get a proper shirt tuck. Align your shirt with your buckle and trouser zipper. Button your blouse. Put your cover on when outdoors and stop drinking cans of beer on the train like a hobo.

But then again, I come from an era where one only traveled in Class-A's.
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