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dual citizen problem

Hi there!

I'm born in Australia and living in Switzerland.
I want to visit my dad in oz but my australian passport expired half year ago.
My question is, if someone knows if I could just travel to oz with my swiss passport and a visa. Will they find out that im Australian citizen.

Thanks.

Greetings :-)
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Re: dual citizen problem

Why don't you apply at the Australian consulate for a new passport? Always handy having two nationalities. Unless of course you are trying to hide your Australian nationality from the authorities, then just travel on your Swiss one with a tourist Visa.
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Re: dual citizen problem

Yes true! But takes ages because my dad also has to sign the forms and the forms still didn't arrive in oz and I would like to go soon..

But true, maybe I should have patience..
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Re: dual citizen problem

Well its not a problem to travel on your Swiss passport, only if you want to stay in the country for longer then the visa. But as you are Australian, that wont matter, except you would require an exit stamp on your Swiss passport if you use it. Just take your old passport with you and get a new one when you are in Oz.


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But true, maybe I should have patience..
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Re: dual citizen problem

According to the Australian government's website (http://www.citizenship.gov.au/current/travel/), "[a]s an Australian citizen you must always leave and enter Australia on an Australian passport." This makes it sound like a legal requirement, but I have no idea precisely what Australian law says on this point.

The FAQs on the Australian High Commission website in the UK note some of the inconveniences that might be experienced by an Australian citizen arriving without an Australian passport (http://www.uk.embassy.gov.au/lhlh/PptsFAQs.html; see Q9 and Q10). Here it doesn't say that it would actually be unlawful for an Australian to enter the country on a foreign passport, and in such a situation, the citizen would have to be admitted once his/her identity was verified, but he/she might face delays at the port of entry and possibly even difficulties in being allowed by an airline to board his/her flight. The risk of such difficulties would be much diminished, I imagine, if the dual citizen in question was traveling for a visit on a round-trip ticket with all other paperwork, including a valid foreign passport, in order, but there's still a risk that one might encounter a few hassles.

The High Commission's FAQs note too that "an Australian citizen cannot be granted a visa for Australia." Don't even European citizens need some kind of advance electronic travel authorisation before boarding a flight to Australia? If such an authorisation cannot be granted to an Australian, that might complicate matters, too.

Based on all of the above, it sounds like it would be worth getting a passport in advance of travel if at all possible, but if you can't, and you wanted to try presenting yourself as a Swiss citizen visiting Australia (which you are, after all), you might just want to see if the Australian eVisitor application works for you (I don't know if it asks about Australian nationality as part of the application process).

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Yes true! But takes ages because my dad also has to sign the forms and the forms still didn't arrive in oz and I would like to go soon..

But true, maybe I should have patience..
Why does your dad need to sign it? Are you under age or something?

Seems to be required to have an Australian passport to enter if you're a Ossie citizen.


"Australian citizens have an automatic right of entry to Australia, and do not require a visa. Australian citizens need only to present the following documents to officers in immigration clearance:
  • a valid Australian passport or other acceptable travel document
  • a completed and signed Incoming Passenger Card.
    See: Passenger cards
Australians who hold dual or multiple nationalities should hold an Australian passport and use it to enter or leave Australia, even when using a foreign passport overseas. The only exception is where they have been issued with an Australian Declaratory Visa."

https://www.immi.gov.au/About/Pages/...australia.aspx

Still, I also saw that applications should only take 3 weeks so are you waiting on your dad to sign the forms or has the completed application with all the documents been sent to the embassy/consulate here?
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Re: dual citizen problem

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Hi there!

I'm born in Australia and living in Switzerland.
I want to visit my dad in oz but my australian passport expired half year ago.
My question is, if someone knows if I could just travel to oz with my swiss passport and a visa. Will they find out that im Australian citizen.

Thanks.

Greetings :-)
Why don't you contact the consulate and ask them?

It's possible that you could enter Australia using your expired Australian passport and renew it whilst you are there. It is possible for a UK citizen to enter the UK using an expired passport and maybe Australia has the same system.
You would need to take your Swiss passport with you too as you need to have a valid passport with you at all times which of course the Australian one isn't.
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Re: dual citizen problem

Get your passport renewed... surely, they will know if you enter the country on a different passport but it should not cause you any problems as you have "dual citizenship"... - NZL passport renewal from Switzerland took me 5 days (all online and very fast) ...
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Re: dual citizen problem

If you travel via London or Washington DC you can get an Australian passport issued by priority 2-day service:
https://www.passports.gov.au/web/timerequired.aspx
"The priority processing service is available for passport applications and renewals lodged in Australia and at two Australian diplomatic missions overseas – Washington DC and London."

Consular offices of virtually every country have provision for emergency issuance of a travel document although the document may be valid only for a single trip to the issuing country.
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