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Old 31.05.2015, 12:31
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Re: Disability Insurance payments(IV)

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If OP goes and lives abroad her won't be a tax payer here, will he?

I am not saying what is right or wong? But asking what OP's expectations are- to claim IV here inb CH, or abroad (back home in ZA for instance').

The op paid insurance premiums to the Swiss system so you would expect the Swiss system to pay out on a risk they accepted the premium for..

Surely that is what insurance is all about!
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Old 31.05.2015, 12:52
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actually paid for not the taxpayer which again the OP was & will still be.
Sorry misunderstanding here, the above seemed to indicate he would still be a taxpayer here.
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Old 31.05.2015, 12:59
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Yes,you are right. As I said in a previous post the SVA payment would be small.
My large corporate company's pension fund disability insurance pays up to 60% of my last salary, which will be enough.
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Sorry misunderstanding here, the above seemed to indicate he would still be a taxpayer here.
Since he will be paid by his employer's pension fund disability insurance why does it make a difference if he's a taxpayer or not?

Surely it's the same as working all your life in one country and then retiring to another as plenty of UK people do. The retiree will be paying any tax due on his pension in the country they reside in and not the country which is actually paying out the pension.
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Re: Disability Insurance payments(IV)

Isn't there a big difference between EU countries or those like CH with a reciprocal arrangement with the EU? ZA does not have reciprocal agreements with CH, does it?

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Old 31.05.2015, 13:10
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Sorry misunderstanding here, the above seemed to indicate he would still be a taxpayer here.

He was a taxpayer & insurance payer at the time of the incident. He still is a taxpayer in CH. why should it matter if he leaves in the future.

You have a UK state pension which is still paid to you despite you leaving , it seems a sound comparison to me.
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Re: Disability Insurance payments(IV)

Sorry, i can't seem to make the Quote function work.

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What am I missing?

I was attracted to this thread by its title.

I have in my hands two items, equally embarrassing.

1. My (Swiss) grandfather's Deutsches Reich Arbeitsbuch für Ausländer with stamps between 1st Dec. 1943 and 1st June 1944.

2. A copy of Stefan Keller's Grüningers Fall: Geschichten von Flucht und Hilfe about Paul Grüninger (Google him) -- now a hero but in his lifetime a disgraced, fired border policeman because he had facilitated the illegal immigration of Jews escaping the Holocaust.

But there's nothing in the thread to illuminate either...

My grandfather was (as I am) a citizen of Aargau. The only Canton never to have expelled its Jews, although someone gave me an explanation which lends little credit to them for that -- historical accident I was told.
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@Caryl
what you might be missing is that this thread now contains discussions about two completely different topics. Many threads develop in a different direction from how they start out, and at a point when two separate threads of MarkH seemed to be about the same thing, a moderator merged the two. Often, that can bring greater clarity, and at the time, that made sense to that moderator.

Now, however, the posts in this merged thread are mostly about the disability and pension situation of MarkH (as they were, in his thread started about that), and his struggle to find ways to make the claim against the insurances to which he contributed.

And the other part, about historical aspects of Naziism in Switzerland, are no longer actually being dealt with in this thread.

If the topic of your grandfather's past interests you, then I'd recommend that - unless it is urgent to you - you wait a few weeks and start your own, new thread about that.
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Old 31.05.2015, 13:27
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He was a taxpayer & insurance payer at the time of the incident. He still is a taxpayer in CH. why should it matter if he leaves in the future.

You have a UK state pension which is still paid to you despite you leaving , it seems a sound comparison to me.
We digress, but Switzerland has a reciprocal arrangement on such matters with the EU, including the UK (where both of us have worked all our adult life until retirement and move here)- unlike ZA. Our pensions are NOT paid in Switzerland but in the UK and we then have to transfer the funds on a regular basis (at a currently very low exchange rate btw... irrelevant to this thread, I know). And here is the crux of the matter for the OP- as he is non EU. That is totally unfair, of course, but the reality on the ground. I wish him the best of luck- but the above will probably make a difference.
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Old 31.05.2015, 13:30
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We digress, but Switzerland has a reciprocal arrangement on such matters with the EU, including the UK (where both of us have worked all our adult life until retirement and move here)- unlike ZA. Our pensions are NOT paid in Switzerland but in the UK and we then have to transfer the funds on a regular basis (at a currently very low exchange rate btw... irrelevant to this thread, I know). And here is the crux of the matter for the OP- as he is non EU. That is totally unfair, of course, but the reality on the ground. I wish him the best of luck- but the above will probably make a difference.

You could have your pension paid in CH, you elect not to that's your decision.

If you moved to a non EU country you would still be paid your pension, you would not loose it.
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Re: Disability Insurance payments(IV)

@MarkH
what happened?
Did you manage to get something sorted out about your permit, your medical assessments, or any other aspect? I'd hope so, for you.
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Re: Disability Insurance payments(IV)

Here is a short update.

I am still around.
I appealed to immigration via the MIRSA legal advisers. They did a really good appeal letter in german at 50 chf/hr. The cost was 250 chf.
I also managed to complete the medical investigation in Basel.Saw 4 doctors in
one day.
So now I await the decision from immigration as to extending my B-Permit and a decision from SVA as to my level of disability.


http://www.sah-zh.ch/angebote/mirsah/

Subsidized by Canton Zurich.

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Just wondering- what happened?
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Just wondering- what happened?
Thanks for asking.
Both my permit B renewal and disability
claim is at the appeal court.
It really takes long so it's just a waiting game.
Like getting blood from a stone.
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Old 04.08.2016, 11:34
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And now we will never find out how that ended. Unless OP opens a new account
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And now we will never find out how that ended. Unless OP opens a new account
He did say just before he got banned yesterday that he would be leaving Switzerland permenently later this year so I guess he wasn't expecting to be successful.
If he reacts to the authorities in the same way he reacted on here I can't say I'd blame them for refusing.
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