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Old 18.06.2015, 19:28
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Where to register: Winterthur or Effretikon?

Hello,

I just arrived in Switzerland 6 days ago and I am trying to register before beginning my new job on July 1st. I have a signed rent contract for a place in Effretikon all ready to go, but I won't be moving in there until August 1st. I am currently staying in my new supervisor's apartment, who is on vacation all of June and July, but this was agreed upon via a skype call and nothing official was signed. Now the question is, where do I register?

I went to the Winterthur einwohnerkontrolle to register yesterday, but when they figured out that I am only staying in Winterthur for 7 weeks and only have a rent contract for a place in Effretikon, they told me that they couldn't register me for Winterthur; you need to be staying at least 3 months in a place in order to need to register there. And then they told me to go register in Effretikon instead within the 14 days of my arrival in Switzerland.

Ok. Makes sense.

So today I went to the Effretikon einwohnerkontrolle, but there they said that they can't register me until I actually move in on August 1st and that I can either register in Winterthur (which will be difficult without any documentation showing that I am staying there) or just wait until August to register for Effretikon when I actually move there. However, I would like to be registered and have a bank account set up before I start working on July 1st.

So long story short: I can't register in Winterthur due to my short stay and lack of proper documentation; I can't register in Effretikon until I actually move there in August; I should be registered somewhere before I start working on July 1. What should I do?


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Old 18.06.2015, 20:28
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Re: Where to register: Winterthur or Effretikon?

You will live in Effretikon then, so registration in Winterthur may be just a waste of your time. If I were you I would contact your future boss telling him starting a new bank account may take some days longer than expected because of this exact situation. Give him the details you posted here.

If your boss is swiss, he won't have much of a problem because he should know how Switzerland ticks (or not ticks).

Welcome to Switzerland! This is mouse trap 1 of 19! 18 more may follow! My most expensive mouse trap was to visit medical doctors in Winterthur. You go there in good faith, but what doctors give you will not help you at all - and 10 days later you will receive an alarming high priced medical bill that takes money directly out of your purse if you don't have insurance. Be warned and continue to ask your questions to this forum.

Apart from these mouse traps, Switzerland is a beautiful country.
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Re: Where to register: Winterthur or Effretikon?

Few years ago when my family came to Switzerland we did register at a friend's place for a short time (one month) in Wadenswil (canton Zurich). It was not a problem at all. Our friend came with us to the Gemeinde and signed the papers they asked (I don't remember details).

This registration was important to get the permits, open bank account, etc.

I know some people who lived first weeks in Switzerland in hotels and did register there.
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Re: Where to register: Winterthur or Effretikon?

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...My most expensive mouse trap was to visit medical doctors in Winterthur. You go there in good faith, but what doctors give you will not help you at all - and 10 days later you will receive an alarming high priced medical bill that takes money directly out of your purse if you don't have insurance...
Sorry, this is nonsense. You're required by law to have insurance and you need to show proof of that insurance to the municipality - or they will sign you up for one. It is backdated to your arrival in Switzerland, so you're always covered.

How much the insurance pays toward any doctor visit depends on what insurance company you use and the coverage you've chosen. You may well have to pay out-of-pocket up front and get reimbursed. Of course with your very first visit each year you will probably have to pay up front anyway and not get fully reimbursed, as you won't yet have met franchise/deductible.
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Re: Where to register: Winterthur or Effretikon?

So to follow up on my situation, here's what finally ended up happening. I was convinced by some (non-Swiss) people, that it might be easiest to try again at the einwohnerkontrolle in Effretikon and just tell them that I am already living there and to try and get registered that way. However, without any supporting documentation and the fact that I had already told them that I was staying in Winterthur for a while, I didn't get anywhere with that approach.

That's when someone at my new job told me that I could ask the current renters in Effretikon (whose contract I am taking over on August 1 and who are also my coworkers) for a Sublet agreement, saying that I am living with them for free until I take over the contract officially. So I requested the letter, which they gave me the next day and I went back to the einwohnerkontrolle, where I was finally able to register. And with that document I was able to get my permit application started and open a bank account.

However, 10 days later the Effretikon einwohnerkontrolle sent me an email saying that since the sublet agreement was only from the current renters and not the house owner, which meant that the sublet document was not official. Soooo I asked the current renters if they could ask the house owner for a similar sublet document, and thankfully the house owner was very accommodating and put together a sublet statement for me the next day. Once I sent that off to them everything was settled.

In hindsight, what I SHOULD have done, was to get a statement from my supervisor whose house I was staying in in Winterthur saying that I'm subletting there (and probably also one from the actual building owner). But since my supervisor is in China for two months and not very available for communication, I was trying to go straight for the Effretikon one... Also, the Winterthur einwohnerkontrolle should not have told me that I couldn't register there if I was staying in Winterthur for less than three months, since this is obviously something that happens all the time.

So in the end, you just need an official document (or person to come with you) to confirm where you're staying if you aren't renting anything yet.
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Re: Where to register: Winterthur or Effretikon?

I find it interesting that there is a legal obligation to register, however there is no legal obligation for a rental contract to be in writing.

Sounds like a few civil servants think they are more important than they are. I wonder if they would confirm that they refused to register you, therefore covering your back. I suspect if pushed they would indeed register you. I have never provided any documentation when I registered, intact living in 3 places over 6 years I never had anything in writing.
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