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procedure for obtaining permit for partner (EU citizen)

I have searched the Forum and haven't found an answer. I plan on going to talk with my local gemiende next week.


The Situation is I have a C Permit and have lived in CH for 15 years (I am a UK citizen)


I work full time and have done for several years (but I do have dependents to Support)


My Partner (also a UK citizen) is finally making the move to CH after several years of Long distance relationship.


My Partner has some work possibilities but no firm contracts as yet.


What would be the best route to take with my partner? Permit B? Permit L? Would it be best to use the 3 month visitor period for him to get a contract and then apply for a visa? It would be useful to have some guidance on the best direction to take before I go to the authorities next week.


This is all new and baffling to me as my ex husband (who is Swiss) sorted all of this out for me in the late 90's when I arrived.


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Re: procedure for obtaining permit for partner (EU citizen)

You/he have two/three options. He can register here as a job seeker for 3 months and try and get a job in that time. He'll need to show he can support himself for that period and will need to arrange Swiss health insurance. If he doesn't find work in that 3 month period then he can ask for an L permit for another 3 months, sufficient funds provided. He can do this for up to a year if he has the funds to do so and the authorities continue to extend the permit.

Otherwise you can apply for a concubine permit for him. You'll need to agree to financially support him for 5 years, even if the relationship subsequently breaks down. Whether this permit grants work rights with it I don't know. Here's a link for Vaud canton's info on concubine permits, your canton will require similar.

http://www.vd.ch/themes/vie-privee/p...s-du-concubin/

Third option is, of course, get married. Then he will get a B permit valid for 5 years.
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Re: procedure for obtaining permit for partner (EU citizen)

Thanks - very useful. As I am legally separated but not yet legally divorced marriage is not an option - not for a few years at least.


It sounds as though the job seekers permit would be best.


In terms of funds to support him. He won't have any bills or costs as he'll be living with me. He'll need to pay his own health insurance of course. He could show around 2,000chf for 3 months......Based on experience is this around what the authorities might expect?
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...He could show around 2,000chf for 3 months......Based on experience is this around what the authorities might expect?
Do you mean 2000 per month, or for the entire three months? If the former he might squeak by with the authorities, but if the latter, no chance. The general figure we've seen posted here is 100 per person per day, which can sometimes be reduced to 50 if partners are sharing costs. Of course rules vary by canton, so you might want to get in touch with your cantonal migration authority for more exact figures.

As you're still in a marriage, I don't think you'd be able to do the concubine route.
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Re: procedure for obtaining permit for partner (EU citizen)

Thanks, useful to know. Do you know roughly how much authorities would deem acceptable if someone does find a Job and a contract in order to issue them with a B Permit. Based on the shared costs figure (above) a contract with as Little as 1'500CHF p/m could be acceptable then?
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Thanks, useful to know. Do you know roughly how much authorities would deem acceptable if someone does find a Job and a contract in order to issue them with a B Permit. Based on the shared costs figure (above) a contract with as Little as 1'500CHF p/m could be acceptable then?
Sorry, but now that I dig a little further...1500/month may not be sufficient. According to this article from last year, the poverty line is 2200/month for a single person. Why not contact the canton and get the word directly from them?

You don't have to spell out your life story, you can just say a friend is considering moving to the canton to search for work. You're helping out because the friend would like to have enough savings to live on, and you'd like to know how much per month would that need to be in order to get a permit.
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Thanks, useful to know. Do you know roughly how much authorities would deem acceptable if someone does find a Job and a contract in order to issue them with a B Permit. Based on the shared costs figure (above) a contract with as Little as 1'500CHF p/m could be acceptable then?
No, because I doubt any employer would get away with paying that low a wage for a full time job. You're talking under 10 francs an hour which is unlikely to me. And if you mean that figure to be a gross one it's even more unlikely.

Given that you're proposing such a low figure what does your partner do for work? And also does he speak a Swiss language which may also help/hinder his job prospects?
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Re: procedure for obtaining permit for partner (EU citizen)

No that figure would be for part time work. On top of my salary this would equal a pretty comfortable monthly income for 2 people.
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Re: procedure for obtaining permit for partner (EU citizen)

He would have to have a job where's he's working at least 50% of the time as well. Then they might agree, but really only your cantonal migration office can tell you exactly what they will and will not accept in terms of earnings and employment criteria. What is acceptable to one may not be to another, depending on where you live, general expenses, etc.

Do not necessarily write off the concubine option if the job seeker looks to be difficult to achieve. Although you're not officially divorced yet the concubine was designed for the boyfriend/girlfriend relationship since the Swiss don't "officially" recognise a relationship outside of marriage or same sex partnership. If you can convince them that you've been in a long term relationship with him and that it will lead to marriage once you divorce they may grant him a permit on that basis. Again, each canton is different in how they do this, but it never hurts to enquire to find out whether they'd be open to the possibility or not.
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Although you're not officially divorced yet the concubine was designed for the boyfriend/girlfriend relationship since the Swiss don't "officially" recognise a relationship outside of marriage or same sex partnership.
Not relevant here as one of the two must be Swiss, but all the same... the above might seem a little bit confusing.
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