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Ci permit to c permit

Hello,

I have moved to Switzerland in 2007, initially on a L permit and now currently on a Ci permit for last 4 years.i work as a management consultant on an indefinite contract with an American company operating in Geneva.my husband works with UN organisation in geneva.

I have heard of the new law of naturalization coming into effect by autumn 2016. By that time, i must have lived in switzerland for nine years and worked on ci permit for 6 years and contributed tax for switzerland for all 6 years.

After arrival in switzerland, i have done a MBA from university of geneva and also done B1 level in french.

I would like to know how does the new law affect under two scenarios for my case.
A. Towards getting a c permit aftr appropriate years of stay, contribution to swiss taxation and efforts to learn language and integrate to swiss society.
B. towards naturalisation

I am a non-eu ( indian) citizen.

The new law and its effects are not entirely clear on what happens in case of Ci permit holders who have worked in switzerland for more than 5 years, contributed to tax and put best efforts to assimilate into swiss system.
Any inputs will be highly appreciated.

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Re: Ci permit to c permit

you need 12 years residence to apply for citizenship unless your husband is Swiss then it is only 5 years
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Re: Ci permit to c permit

The new nationality law (predicted now to enter into force in February 2017) does not affect the law on foreigners (which handles the requirements for C permits).
Indeed, under the new law you would be unable to apply for naturalisation with a CI permit. My understanding is that one needs 10 years' residency with a B permit in order to get a C permit, unless one is a national of the EU, U.S., Canada etc in which case the residency requirement is reduced to 5 years' residency.
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Re: Ci permit to c permit

Thanks Chomp.

As I understand from your reply, the new nationality law does not affect the law on foreigners. Currently, I UN spouses holding a Ci permit can get a C permit after 10 years of stay in Switzerland with the requirements to be met for Integration into Swiss society.

If the law on foreigners is not changing, I hope one could apply for a C permit after holding a Ci permit for 10 years.

Also, would someone be able to guide me to an appropriate attorney/law expert whom I can consult with regard to new law and the impact it may have on my personal situation.

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Re: Ci permit to c permit

I think you may want to read this:

http://www.staffcoordinatingcouncil....ationality-law

"Our concern is that, with some exceptions, spouses and children of UN staff will not able to obtain a C permit regardless of years of residence or work in the country ..."

and this:

http://home.web.cern.ch/cern-people/...ss-nationality
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...If the law on foreigners is not changing, I hope one could apply for a C permit after holding a Ci permit for 10 years..
The law is changing, so just be prepared for that. I think part of the reasoning behind not allowing Ci to move to C is that most folks on Ci don't pay taxes. So the (SVP) argument is that those individuals are not truly integrating/contributing to Switzerland. I know, you still consume food and pay rent, etc. but that seems to be the line of reasoning.
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The law is changing, so just be prepared for that. I think part of the reasoning behind not allowing Ci to move to C is that most folks on Ci don't pay taxes. So the (SVP) argument is that those individuals are not truly integrating/contributing to Switzerland. I know, you still consume food and pay rent, etc. but that seems to be the line of reasoning.
Yet at the same time there are many foreigners on B- and C-permits who don't pay any taxes as their income has dropped below the threshold, and some of them even manage to get through the naturalization process without any trouble!
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