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american marrying an eu citizen in switzerland

Sorry if this is redundant, but I can't find a thread with exactly my situation.

I am from the USA and my fiancee' is an EU citizen and a holder of a B permit, studying and working part time in Switzerland.

I'm living and working in Germany as a nurse assistant, as close as I can to Switzerland, and looking for work there (as a nurse assistant or in child/infant care)

While the chances of landing a job there, with an employer willing to apply for a work permit are slim, I'm wondering if it would be beneficial to just get married sooner. We have been under the impression that until my fiancee' can ensure that his income can vouch for my living situation, that I wouldn't automatically be issued the same permit as him. Is that true in every case? Does anyone have any experience with this? Could this particular thing sometimes differ depending on the canton?

Any tips would be appreciated.
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Re: american marrying an eu citizen in switzerland

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification-eu-efta/
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Re: american marrying an eu citizen in switzerland

Getting married will make it easier for the permit side of things. You will get the same permit as your husband and would be able to work upon the production of an employment contract. It will also help in applying for jobs to be able to say that you already have a permit that allows you to work as that puts you on a par with Swiss/EU nationals when it comes to hiring - bypasssing the non-EU hiring regulations.

"Are family members allowed to work in Switzerland?
Spouses and children of EU-EFTA nationals who are admitted to Switzerland under family reunification are legally entitled to work regardless of their nationality. However, they have to inform the appropriate cantonal migration authorities before doing so. Spouses and children of EU2 nationals who have a short-term (L) permit are subject to systematic controls by the cantonal migration authorities to ensure wage and working conditions are correspond to the particular region and sector."

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...hweiz/faq.html

However, the main sticking point could be whether your student husband can afford to support you both.

"Self-employed persons or economically inactive persons may only apply for family reunification if they have the necessary financial means to support these family members."

https://www.bfm.admin.ch/content/dam...nnachzug-e.pdf

If he can't prove that then you may not be granted a permit regardless of being married.
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Re: american marrying an eu citizen in switzerland

+1 for Medea's advice. As you already speak German, if your permit is sorted via marriage I'd think you could easily find employment. Double-check if you need to have your nursing qualifications recognized here, or if it's sufficient that they're already recognized in Germany. The Swiss Red Cross is responsible for evaluating nursing qualifications.

It might be easiest to get married, but stay in Germany and keep working until you land a job here. Then when you apply for a permit here, you'd still be a dependent of your spouse but you could show your work contract to prove you have sufficient funds as a couple.
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Re: american marrying an eu citizen in switzerland

Yes, that is our main concern right now. He works part time, but I don't think he earns enough to be able to prove he can support me according to swiss standards.

However, in that link you shared it says,

"Anyone wishing to bring his/her family to Switzerland must have suitable accommodation. An accommodation is deemed suitable if it reflects typical living conditions of Swiss citizens. If the main entitled person is an employee, then the right to family reunification is not contingent upon that person's financial situation. Self-employed persons or economically inactive persons may only apply for family reunification if they have the necessary financial means to support these family members."

He is employed by the SBB, albeit part time. According to this, if I am reading it right, it shouldn't depend on how much he makes or how much he works?? I think the accommodation would be easy to solve.
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If he's here on a student permit he's classed as "economically inactive" and hence the financial criteria does apply which is why I underlined that section.

3Wishes' idea of getting married and then applying for jobs may work out best. You can put on your CV that you are able to get a Swiss permit because of your marriage status to an EU national and as she says when you then apply for your permit the combined finances may be enough.
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Yes, my nursing qualifications are another story. I have been already applying and so far have been told I need the SRK pflegehelferin course. But according to the SRK website I have to be able to understand Swiss dialects and dish out a couple of thousand francs for it. I'm open to doing it, especially if an employer wanted to sponsor me, for example. (I'm thinking nursing assistant jobs are probably the only ones in any country that don't ever seem to be all taken).

As I am only a nurse assistant, my U.S. certification doesn't seem to say much. Even here in Germany I'm working in a position that doesn't technically require any certification here.

Now that's an idea. Thank you.

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...But according to the SRK website I have to be able to understand Swiss dialects and dish out a couple of thousand francs for it...
I might have misread, but I thought you only need to speak an official language (German, French or Italian), not a dialect. And the cost to have your qualifications reviewed is 500 Francs. Nothing to sneeze at, but of course not thousands of Francs.
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Re: american marrying an eu citizen in switzerland

There's certainly a need for nurses and nursing assistants here from what I've read on the forums, particularly in care homes. But I doubt any employer would sponsor you to do the course, it would be down to you to get the necessary qualifications yourself.

It might be worth thinking of doing a nursing course with the Open University in Germany. It's part of the OU based in the UK and is accredited throughout Europe.

http://www.openuniversity.edu/course...a?subj-area=42

Unfortunately, studying medicine and its related areas in Switzerland isn't open to you as these are restricted subjects and only certain people are allowed to do them. Still, you could also look at doing a course in Germany as tuition is free for all students there.
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There's certainly a need for nurses and nursing assistants here from what I've read on the forums, particularly in care homes. But I doubt any employer would sponsor you to do the course, it would be down to you to get the necessary qualifications yourself.

It might be worth thinking of doing a nursing course with the Open University in Germany. It's part of the OU based in the UK and is accredited throughout Europe.

http://www.openuniversity.edu/course...a?subj-area=42

Unfortunately, studying medicine and its related areas in Switzerland isn't open to you as these are restricted subjects and only certain people are allowed to do them. Still, you could also look at doing a course in Germany as tuition is free for all students there.
Thank you for those suggestions. I am definitely interested in furthering my education.
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