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facilitated naturalization - but no close ties

Hi All,

I live in Canada and I've been married to my husband (who has Swiss Citizenship) for 9 years (been together for 20). We have 6 year old twins and we just took them to the Swiss consulate and now they have their Swiss passports which is great!

I know that I am eligible for facilitated naturalization and would like to do this, however, we no longer have any close ties to Switzerland. My husband's grandfather used to live there, and when we lived in the UK (8 years ago for 7 years) we used to fly over and see him once a year, but he has been dead for 6 years now.

My question is: am I simply out of luck now? My husband no longer has any relatives there, though he has relatives in France.

I do have an EU passport in addition to my Canadian one, so I don't necessarily NEED the Swiss one, but now that the whole family has one it would be good to get one, particularly as we discuss moving to Switzerland when the kids are a bit older.

Many thanks of your help.
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Re: facilitated naturalization - but no close ties

Well you have very close ties to 3 Swiss people don't you! Do a few trips to Switzerland to show you spend time there & you should be ok!
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Re: facilitated naturalization - but no close ties

Thanks for your reply! Would close ties to three Swiss Citizens who aren't living in Switzerland be even considered? My husband's mother and aunt are also Swiss, but they are living in Canada as well.

Also, I likely won't be able to make more than one trip in the next couple of years....
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Re: facilitated naturalization - but no close ties

I think for naturalization, facilitated or not, you need to live in Switzerland for a certain period of time, maybe 5 years, of which 3 in the same commune ?
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I think for naturalization, facilitated or not, you need to live in Switzerland for a certain period of time, maybe 5 years, of which 3 in the same commune ?
No, see Article 28.
https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home...uergerung.html
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Hi All,

I live in Canada and I've been married to my husband (who has Swiss Citizenship) for 9 years (been together for 20). We have 6 year old twins and we just took them to the Swiss consulate and now they have their Swiss passports which is great!

I know that I am eligible for facilitated naturalization and would like to do this, however, we no longer have any close ties to Switzerland. My husband's grandfather used to live there, and when we lived in the UK (8 years ago for 7 years) we used to fly over and see him once a year, but he has been dead for 6 years now.

My question is: am I simply out of luck now? My husband no longer has any relatives there, though he has relatives in France.

I do have an EU passport in addition to my Canadian one, so I don't necessarily NEED the Swiss one, but now that the whole family has one it would be good to get one, particularly as we discuss moving to Switzerland when the kids are a bit older.

Many thanks of your help.
Highlight visits to Switzerland, willingness to learn a national language (i.e. take some classes), Swiss nationals you are in contact with (can be in or out of Switzerland), join a Swiss club if possible. List your connection / visits with the grandfather even if it was several years ago. Inform your whole family except you are citizens. Good luck.
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Re: facilitated naturalization - but no close ties

I agree with you, but i think you'll find the word "possible" quite a mountain to overcome.
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Re: facilitated naturalization - but no close ties

There are some other threads (like this one: Facilitated naturalization interview) detailing the experiences of facilitated naturalization applicants who have applied from outside Switzerland. It's certainly possible, and indeed not all that unusual, for spouses of Swiss citizens and other eligible individuals with the required "close ties" to the country to obtain citizenship from overseas.

In determining whether or not you might be considered to have the necessary "close ties", it's helpful to know how the Swiss authorities interpret this concept. This is laid out in section 4.7.2.4 of the Swiss administrative manual on citizenship (follow the link to Chapter 4 here: https://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/it/home...rgerrecht.html). The key points have been touched upon above: They would look for past visits to Switzerland (generally three in the past ten years), contacts with people in Switzerland, involvement in Swiss organizations abroad, and some knowledge of a Swiss national language. As part of the process, there would also be an interview that would assess your familiarity with Swiss history, politics, and geography.

These are the general expectations, but the guidelines also say that not fulfilling one of the criteria can be compensated for by fulfilling the others particularly well.

In practice, I would say that if you visited your husband's family in Switzerland a few times in the past and perhaps can get in another trip, if you have (or can develop) even a very basic level of ability in a Swiss language, if you can join a Swiss society or club (if one exists in your area), if you can get letters from Swiss family members and friends testifying to your good character and interest in the country (letters from Swiss abroad can be included with your application materials), and (ideally) if there are even one or two contacts in Switzerland you can put down on your application form as references, you would have a reasonably good chance of success.

It might be that you would want to wait until you have had time to make another visit to Switzerland, to participate in some local Swiss club events, and to follow the news from Switzerland for a while before you make your application -- "close ties" can be developed over time -- but if you do all of that, you ought to be in pretty good shape. Good luck ...
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I agree with you, but i think you'll find the word "possible" quite a mountain to overcome.
I did it this way myself, relatively simple process, just took about 2 years. Article 28 is designed for marriages where the couple is living outside of Switzerland, but can also be applied for whilst living in Switzerland. Have to be married 6 years, no dependency on how long living in Switzerland. How do you think those married couples (spouse with Swiss partner) living outside of Switzerland get naturalized?
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I agree with you, but i think you'll find the word "possible" quite a mountain to overcome.
not really...

Sweden has similar article (10 years married though), i.e. the only requirement is to be married for x years.

I applied for Swedish citizenship for my wife and what I did was to write a nice letter (in the name of my wife) explaining why she wanted to be a Swedish citizen even though she did not live there, and voila she is now Swedish citizen! (Took 2 months! )
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