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Portugese passport holder - documentation

Hi,

I've read about the visa requirement for EU and Shengan citizens. Im still looking for clarity. I think I've read too much and it's turned out to be information overload or I'm just nervous about this move.
I'm a Portugese citizen through naturalization. I'm half Goan and half Portugese.
I want to try and see if Switzerland or Sweden would be a place I could possibly call my home and check for career options.

Could someone please share what are the requirements or documents required to land and work in Switzerland? Alternatively I'm trying for Sweden too.

Would appreciate the response.

Thank you.

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Re: Portugese passport holder - documentation

A little edit that comes from a PM from a much more permit-knowledgeable person than poor old me.

I thought that because you are (half) Portuguese you could go through the EU-Permit route, which should be easier than for those with just the Indian Passport. Unfortunately it seems that the fact that you are half Indian hinders you by making you go through the non-EU way.

You can find in here links to all you need:

EU and non-EU Permits, Schengen, Naturalisation.

Good luck with your search.

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A little edit that comes from a PM from a much more permit-knowledgeable person than poor old me.

I thought that because you are (half) Portuguese you could go through the EU-Permit route, which should be easier than for those with just the Indian Passport. Unfortunately it seems that the fact that you are half Indian hinders you by making you go through the non-EU way.

You can find in here links to all you need:

EU and non-EU Permits, Schengen, Naturalisation.

Good luck with your search.
Well, maybe you could share your PM, because as a Portuguese citizen, I don't see why she would need a visa.

She's not half a citizen as there is no such thing.
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Re: Portugese passport holder - documentation

I don't think she needs a visa either... I'm portuguese and I never had to have such a thing. I only got a job and problem solved x)
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Re: Portugese passport holder - documentation

Perhaps Medea will come along and explain it in a better way than I could.

The OP has double nationality (I used the word "half" because that is the exact expression she used on the original post). I assumed that having the part Portuguese would make it easier with the EU-permit route. However, Medea mentioned that the fact that she is both Indian and Portuguese, the Indian nationality plays negatively on the permit request. Considering that I have seen enough people going through trouble of one order or another because of double-nationality, I can very much believe it.

I'm not a permit expert, hence my link to the posts of more knowledgable people. I am quite aware of how single Portuguese nationality plays. The problem is finding out if the double nationality can hinder the whole process.
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Hi,

I've read about the visa requirement for EU and Shengan citizens. Im still looking for clarity. I think I've read too much and it's turned out to be information overload or I'm just nervous about this move.
I'm a Portugese citizen through naturalization. I'm half Goan and half Portugese.
I want to try and see if Switzerland or Sweden would be a place I could possibly call my home and check for career options.

Could someone please share what are the requirements or documents required to land and work in Switzerland? Alternatively I'm trying for Sweden too.
Portugal is an EU country and if, as you say, you are a Portuguese citizen, you generally have the right to live and work anywhere in the EU and also in non-EU Switzerland.

The "Swiss Authorities Online" portal has a number of pages on living and working in Switzerland for foreigners. This page might be a good place to start:

"Working in Switzerland as a citizen of an EU/EFTA member state

Citizens from EU-17 states and EU-8 states enjoy full freedom of movement. This means that citizens of those countries are free to travel to Switzerland, and to live and work here. "

https://www.ch.ch/en/working-switzerland-eu-efta/

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Portuguese are the third largest non-Swiss ethnic group in Switzerland after Germans and Italians. Although generally respected, Portuguese are often unemployed as can be seen from this Tages-Anzeiger article, second only to Bulgarians/ Romanians:

http://blog.tagesanzeiger.ch/datenbl...rbeitslos-sind

You should consider the risks of immigrating to Switzerland and not being able to find a job due to your lack of German or French language abilities. You might be better off going to the UK or Ireland, where you could work in English, or even Portugal, where you could work in Portuguese.

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Re: Portugese passport holder - documentation

Thanks Jesse. I've got my clarification.
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Perhaps Medea will come along and explain it in a better way than I could.

The OP has double nationality (I used the word "half" because that is the exact expression she used on the original post). I assumed that having the part Portuguese would make it easier with the EU-permit route. However, Medea mentioned that the fact that she is both Indian and Portuguese, the Indian nationality plays negatively on the permit request. Considering that I have seen enough people going through trouble of one order or another because of double-nationality, I can very much believe it.

I'm not a permit expert, hence my link to the posts of more knowledgable people. I am quite aware of how single Portuguese nationality plays. The problem is finding out if the double nationality can hinder the whole process.
Nonsense. For B permit purposes it does not matter how many nationalities the person has and which are, as soon as one is EU. She doesn't need even to mention her indian nationality to the Swiss authorities if she doesn't want to.
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Perhaps Medea will come along and explain it in a better way than I could.

The OP has double nationality (I used the word "half" because that is the exact expression she used on the original post). I assumed that having the part Portuguese would make it easier with the EU-permit route. However, Medea mentioned that the fact that she is both Indian and Portuguese, the Indian nationality plays negatively on the permit request. Considering that I have seen enough people going through trouble of one order or another because of double-nationality, I can very much believe it.

I'm not a permit expert, hence my link to the posts of more knowledgable people. I am quite aware of how single Portuguese nationality plays. The problem is finding out if the double nationality can hinder the whole process.
Not quite right Helm. What I was saying is that the passport she uses to enter Switzerland effectively determines what nationality she holds here. So if she uses an EU passport then she's an EU national, if she uses a non-EU passport - even though she's also Portugese - the Swiss will see her as a non-EU - they can't do otherwise.

She could apply for a job here, saying she's Portugese, but if she turns up with a non-EU passport she'll a) have trouble getting into the country and b) lose any job offer because of the lack of an EU passport to go with her nationality. It's why we often ask if non-EU nationals can claim an EU nationality by descent, then they wouldn't have the non-EU problem because they can get an EU passport.

So if Wendycorrea arrives using an EU passport she's fine to find a place to live, look for a job, etc. She's not subject to any of the restrictions she'd face if she tries to come here using a non-EU passport.

Wendy, you need your Portugese passport, some passport sized photos for your permit and evidence in the way of bank statements or other to show you can support yourself financially while you job hunt.
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Re: Portugese passport holder - documentation

Thanks for the clarification, Medea I got really confused with the information. Hope Wendy gets things straighten out
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You should consider the risks of immigrating to Switzerland and not being able to find a job due to your lack of German or French language abilities. You might be better off going to the UK or Ireland, where you could work in English, or even Portugal, where you could work in Portuguese.
That's not always an option. I never had any interest in coming to Switzerland and I was forced to do it because this was the only country where, at the time, I had someone here to help me get started.. right now I'm alone but when I first came that was a huge help without which I probably had no chance to stay. If I could choose to go elsewhere I would, because I speak english and I'm sure I would prefer to be in the UK for example... but that wasn't an option. And telling the OP to go to Portugal isn't a very good advice either... I want to go back there because I need to do stuff that at the moment I think I can only do in my own country but I'm well aware of the risk I'm taking... Portugal right now is in a delicate situation, you can't just say "go to Portugal because you speak portuguese".

Also I should say that when I came here I didn't speak french or german and I got a job a month after my arrival... I had some help of course but that's the point. I wouldn't tell the OP to come if she can't be helped here anyway. Now I speak french just fine.
I'm not saying it's easy but going to Portugal is a lot worst when it comes to finding jobs. While I was able to find a job here in a month, in Portugal I was looking for months with help and everything and I just couldn't do it.

In which case, I wouldn't tell anyone to come live in Switzerland, unless there's no other option... but for that I have other reasons because when it comes to money or finding jobs I'll say it's easier here.
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Thanks Capo. You're right.


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Nonsense. For B permit purposes it does not matter how many nationalities the person has and which are, as soon as one is EU. She doesn't need even to mention her indian nationality to the Swiss authorities if she doesn't want to.
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