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Marriage American and Swiss

Hello Everyone,

I now have a question concerning about our paper procedure. As I am currently here under tourist status, we discussed about marriage to get a permanent solution but in order to do that I have to provide paper work from the States to prove that I am single? then because I will be leaving Ch soon, I wonder is it possible to apply for a visa once I have all my paper work ready or have to wait for another 3 months to re-enter and to it.

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Re: Marriage American and Swiss

Your fiancÚ can apply for a fiancÚ permit for you once you have all your paperwork sorted. You need to apply in the States for a Type D visa at the nearest Swiss embassy/consulate to you, then stay in the States until it's issued. If/when the fiancÚ permit is approved the Type D visa will be stamped into your passport so you can enter Switzerland long term legally.

More on marrying in Switzerland here:

https://www.ch.ch/en/marriage/
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Your fiancÚ can apply for a fiancÚ permit for you once you have all your paperwork sorted. You need to apply in the States for a Type D visa at the nearest Swiss embassy/consulate to you, then stay in the States until it's issued. If/when the fiancÚ permit is approved the Type D visa will be stamped into your passport so you can enter Switzerland long term legally.

More on marrying in Switzerland here:

https://www.ch.ch/en/marriage/
Thank you so much for your much helpful and detailed information! I hope to hear from someone's own experiences here about the time frame too so that we could be better prepare.
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Re: Marriage American and Swiss

Just get married in the US, no special papers needed.

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in order to do that I have to provide paper work from the States to prove that I am single?
See this; you will need to enquire whether it works in Switzerland:
"Affidavit of Eligibility to Marry: Some countries require an affidavit by the parties as proof of legal capacity to enter into a marriage contract. No such government-issued document exists in the United States. You may execute such an affidavit at a U.S. embassy or consulate. The U.S. embassy or consulate cannot attest to your marital status; however, most countries will accept a statement from you regarding your ability to marry if your signature on the affidavit has been notarized by a U.S. consular officer."
http://travel.state.gov/content/pass.../marriage.html
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Re: Marriage American and Swiss

Getting the affadavit to prove you are single is super easy. You just make an appointment at the consulate (Zurich, Geneva, or the embassy in Bern), show up at your appointment with your passport, and they give you the form to fill out, and then the consulate general comes out to sign and stamp it and watch you sign. Basically its a fancy notary. I did this last Friday in Zurich to prove I was single before my marriage in the states (needed to register a marriage in Switzerland after the fact) and it took all of 15 minutes. I'm pretty sure its the same exact document.

http://bern.usembassy.gov/service/co...cy-zurich.html

Just be sure to schedule your appointment by email if its in Zurich and be specific when you tell them what you need. Affidavit for marriage eligibility.
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Re: Marriage American and Swiss

You can do the paperwork back in the US easily as well, via Swiss Consulate. For the affidavit to prove you are single, just find a template, fill it up, and let any public notary stamp it.
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Re: Marriage American and Swiss

Hello
I am an American bride wishing to get married to a Swiss groom. We have sent the paperwork for our marriage license while I was in Switzerland on a tourist visa.
I must return to the states by Nov. 16, 2015 (soon) so I'm sure our license will not arrive in time. We were told there is a possibility my tourist visa can be extended so I will not have to leave before we get the license. Has anyone heard of that actually happening?
Also, is there still a fiance visa? With all the immigrant law changes in Switzerland this year, I wasn't sure if it still existed. I want to return to Switzerland as soon as possible (before 90 day tourist visa). Does anyone know how long this will take or had experience with it?
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Hello
I am an American bride wishing to get married to a Swiss groom. We have sent the paperwork for our marriage license while I was in Switzerland on a tourist visa.
I must return to the states by Nov. 16, 2015 (soon) so I'm sure our license will not arrive in time. We were told there is a possibility my tourist visa can be extended so I will not have to leave before we get the license. Has anyone heard of that actually happening?
Also, is there still a fiance visa? With all the immigrant law changes in Switzerland this year, I wasn't sure if it still existed. I want to return to Switzerland as soon as possible (before 90 day tourist visa). Does anyone know how long this will take or had experience with it?
Thank you!
Canton Aargau's website lists a "Temporary Resident Permit in Preparation of Marriage" for a non-EU citizen planning to marry a Swiss/ C resident holder:

https://translate.google.ch/translat...061&edit-text=
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Re: Marriage American and Swiss

Hi - this looks like the fiance visa? The only problem is I have just one week before I have to leave and I have yet to get our marriage license which may take over 2 months to get.
I wanted to get something that takes just days to get instead of months but I know I'm asking A LOT! haha
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Re: Marriage American and Swiss

Not going to happen, the Swiss never move quickly. Did you enter with a tourist visa though or are you simply here for the 3 months Americans are allowed as a tourist? If you don't have an actual visa, it can't be extended.

If you have to go back to the States, you'll need to apply for a Type D visa to be able to enter Switzerland long term anyway and that's done at the Swiss embassy. If the permit/licence is approved then the visa will be issued and would supersede any 90 day tourist restriction.
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Re: Marriage American and Swiss

I am a wedding photographer and heard about the paperwork 2nd hand from my couples. Generally the usa is a quick and easy option for the legal aspect. I even had a French couple do this as their marie was looking for papers they didn't have. Not sure what visa to return on though
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Re: Marriage American and Swiss

A friend (EU-12) and her husband (West African) who at the time had both been living legally in Geneva for some years ended up getting married in Denmark, the bureaucratic requirements amounting to something like having to stay in the country for 4 days. The red tape for them to get married in Geneva was in the end just too Kafkaesque.
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Re: Marriage American and Swiss

Agreed! The paperwork is astronomical but my Swiss fiance wants to get married in Switzerland soooooo.......
Otherwise, I'd get married in the U.S. We can marry in 24 hours!
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Agreed! The paperwork is astronomical but my Swiss fiance wants to get married in Switzerland soooooo.......
Otherwise, I'd get married in the U.S. We can marry in 24 hours!
Can you not compromise? Do the easy way for the legal part (in the U.S.) and then have your party in CH?
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Generally the usa is a quick and easy option for the legal aspect.
Unless one of you is Swiss.

After we return from the US (married), for six months I was married and my Swiss wife not!

Many documents later, they decided that she was married as well.

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Unless one of you is Swiss.

After we return from the US (married), for six months I was married and my Swiss wife not!

Many documents later, they decided that she was married as well.
A fair point, but that was a few years ago, wasn't it? Also didn't they treat Swiss women who married completely differently than Swiss men up until recently? My husband is Swiss and for us it was a breeze 5 years ago.

DeezBeez - Thinking again about your situation it might not make things any simpler to get married in the U.S. at this point. If I understand correctly, you've already applied for a marriage license here. I assume you entered as a tourist since you don't have a fiancee visa? If so you'd likely just complicate things further by getting married abroad while your application is pending here. I have heard that if you're already here on a fiancee visa it can be extended, but I am not sure how (or if) it works when you're a tourist.
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didn't they treat Swiss women who married completely differently than Swiss men up until recently?
1992 is recently?

Anyway, it took six months because, while a US marriage certificate was good enough for me, even for the Swiss, it wasn't enough for my Swiss wife, and so it had to be sent to the Swiss consulate in NYC, and all in all it took six months and CHF 35.

Fortunately, a friend's sister had been through the same when she married a German in Germany, so he knew what to do.

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1992 is recently?
In the grand scale of how quickly the Swiss move, I'd say yes it is.
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Can you not compromise? Do the easy way for the legal part (in the U.S.) and then have your party in CH?
This is a very smart advice, and that's exactly what we are doing.

Show up at the courthouse in the place we live in the U.S. with all the paperwork, pay $35, go back 3 days later to pick up marriage license in front of official witness = done.
We are still doing the big show with music, puffy dress, flowers, the whole deal in my home country in Europe with all our loved ones later on, but we avoid the paperwork hassle. Doing the legal in Italy or Germany was going to be a bureaucratic nightmare, especially since neither of us lives there anymore and my soon to be Mr. has been married and divorced before (=international paperwork nightmare).
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