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Leaving Switzerland during [regular naturalization] process

Hello,

I started the regular nationalisation process earlier this year and live in Zurich with a C permit. Currently, I am unemployed and as it looks I believe it will be faster for me to find a job corresponding to my profile in Germany or the UK rather than Switzerland, and the recruitment process is advanced for one position in Germany. I will therefore likely need to decide soon whether I take this job and leave Switzerland, or stay in Switzerland until I find a job here. My idea was to take this job in Germany until I find a position in Switzerland and then come back here. I think this would be the best option because the RAV would not need to pay unemployment allowance during this period abroad.

My question is: in case I find a job outside of Switzerland first, would the swiss authorities make an exception and not stop the naturalisation process, considering my situation ?

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Mary
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Old 20.08.2015, 19:25
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Re: Leaving Switzerland during nationalisation process

No, why should they? There's no guarantee you'd find a job here soon or even at all. A requirement of getting naturalisation is that you're resident here which you won't be if you're living/working in the UK or Germany.
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Re: Leaving Switzerland during nationalisation process

I do not know how far into Germany your new job will be. But if you are willing to keep up your main residency and center of life here and travel back every weekend you may still be eligible for naturilization.
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Old 20.08.2015, 19:40
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My question is: in case I find a job outside of Switzerland first, would the swiss authorities make an exception and not stop the naturalisation process, considering my situation ?
Nope. If you leave Switzerland, then bye bye Naturalisation and bye bye C-permit.

You could however commute as already mentioned.
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Re: Leaving Switzerland during nationalisation process

facilitated or the long process?
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Old 20.08.2015, 19:54
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Nope. If you leave Switzerland, then bye bye Naturalisation and bye bye C-permit.
Unless she's married to a Swiss.

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Old 20.08.2015, 20:03
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facilitated or the long process?
Regular she said in her opening post.
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Regular she said in her opening post.
I must apologise for stopping reading after 4 words
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I must apologise for stopping reading after 4 words
Regular was the fourth word. Or were you includinging Hello in the word count?
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Regular was the fourth word. Or were you includinging Hello in the word count?
hello is a word. It must be counted.
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hello is a word. It must be counted.
Okay, I'll forgive you then. But maybe consider upping your word count to 5 or even 6 before giving up in future.
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Re: Leaving Switzerland during nationalisation process

Thanks for your advice,

I have done some reading in the meantime and apparently there is a possibility to keep the C-permit valid during 4 years. At least I would not need to go through the whole process again when coming back to Switzerland. Here's the link to the law and extract of the Art.:

https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classified-compilation/20020232/index.html

Art. 61 Expiry of permits
2 (...) On request, a permanent residence permit may remain valid for a further four years.


Do you know whether there are any specific conditions to fulfill in order to submit this request ?

Thanks
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Thanks for your advice,

I have done some reading in the meantime and apparently there is a possibility to keep the C-permit valid during 4 years. At least I would not need to go through the whole process again when coming back to Switzerland. Here's the link to the law and extract of the Art.:

https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classified-compilation/20020232/index.html

Art. 61 Expiry of permits
2 (...) On request, a permanent residence permit may remain valid for a further four years.

Do you know whether there are any specific conditions to fulfill in order to submit this request ?

Thanks
Yes, of course there are and there's only 3 that are acceptable. Your Swiss employer sends you on assignment to work abroad, military service or further education. Otherwise, the default answer if you ask is "no" and you'd have to make a REALLY good case to get them to say yes. You meet none of the conditions so don't even bother asking because leaving to find a job while your citizenship application is going through won't cut it.
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Re: Leaving Switzerland during nationalisation process

This is the link to an application form to maintain a C permit while abroad for Canton Aargau:

https://www.ag.ch/media/kanton_aarga...altungCV11.pdf

You should search for a similar application form for your Wohnkanton.

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I agree with Medea Fleecestealer's view. If I were you, I would discuss this matter with an immigration attorney before applying. Also, Canton Zurich regular naturalizations seem to take about one year. Would it be worthwhile for you to just be a little more patient?

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I do not know how far into Germany your new job will be. But if you are willing to keep up your main residency and center of life here and travel back every weekend you may still be eligible for naturilization.
Thanks,
That could definitely be an option for me, as I would keep my apartment in ZH and spend as much time as possible here. If I do this, i.e. commute every week, do you know what administrative work I will have to do ? Do I need to inform the Gemeinde, change my tax residency ?
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