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Work permit for architects [non-EU]

Hi everybody,
I am new to this forum.
I am an architect, but had taken a break after delivering d bundle of joy to d family...my 4 year old daughter. Now my husband is been places in Zurich through his company and I want to persue my career. So wanted to know d job opportunities in Zurich for architects and what is d procedure for work permit and visa etc.
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Hi everybody,

I am new to this forum.

I am an architect, but had taken a break after delivering d bundle of joy to d family...my 4 year old daughter. Now my husband is been places in Zurich through his company and I want to persue my career. So wanted to know d job opportunities in Zurich for architects and what is d procedure for work permit and visa etc.

Thankyou.

If you have an EU passport it's easy, if not almost zero chance.

If you use the search function you will see people have asked similar questions before.
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Re: Work permit for architects

It'll also depend on what type of permit your husband gets. Is he also a non-EU citizen? And if you don't speak a Swiss language (German for Zurich) then that will make it more difficult too.
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Hi,
Hmmm...looks like I ll have to change my career...but my husband n me both are Indians n have Indian passports...

But is it difficult to get a work permit? I am currently staying in Johannesburg n here its difficult to get a critical skill visa coz the country prefers employment for d locals. So how is it in swiss...how bout job opportunities in interior designing. N how difficult it may b if I learn revit...it is an architectural drafting skill. O plz suggest if learning some course will help me to seek a job.

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Re: Work permit for architects

Your husband will likely be issued a B or an L permit. As non-EU citizens with a B (or L), you will need to apply to move to Switzerland:

"You are holding a residence permit (permit B) Holders of a residence permit (permit B) are not entitled to bring family members to Switzerland under the family reunification programme. However, the cantonal migration authorities may make an exception if the third-country nationals holding the residence permit satisfy the following requirements:
The following requirements must be met in order for family reunification to take place:
  • Your apartment must be large enough – by Swiss standards – to accommodate the entire family.
  • If you are self-employed or not employed: you must prove that you have adequate financial resources to cover the living expenses of family members."
https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification/



Assuming you are allowed to move to Switzerland, you will then need to obtain a work permit:

http://www.awa.zh.ch/internet/volksw...ennachzug.html

For architect or interior design jobs, you might wish to search on the various job vacancy websites at this link:

http://aso.ch/en/consultation/back-t...-to-find-a-job
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Re: Work permit for architects

Thanku so much everybody.
I will go through d links mentioned.
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Re: Work permit for architects [non-EU]

Hi KG

In case your husband is given a B permit - which is not at all an exceptional occurance - you will be allowed to work and will not have to apply for a separate permit.

WRT software, you can checkout VectorWorks which has wide usage here.

Best of luck.
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Re: Work permit for architects [non-EU]

It's going to depend on what type of permit your husband gets. If he's lucky enough to get a B then as sva points out you'll be able to work without needing further permission from the Swiss authorities. If, however, he gets an L permit then an employer would have to meet certain conditions before they'd be able to employ you. There's no way to tell which he/you will end up with though, there are quota limits for both: 2,500 B permits and 4,000 L's per year.

Your other problem will be the fact you don't speak a Swiss language. While English is a bonus, it's not one of Switzerland's 4 official languages so you'll probably need a good level of written/spoken German to find work here as an architect.
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Thanku so much everybody.
I will go through d links mentioned.
Please use full English sentences on EF (no txtspk) so that other EFers can understand you better. Thanks.
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Re: Work permit for architects [non-EU]

Thanku everybody. I went to d links mentioned above. According to my understanding my husband may get permit L. I will try to learn German. But what do I need to learn German or swiss?
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Thank you everybody. I went to the links mentioned above. According to my understanding my husband may get permit L. I will try to learn German. But what do I need to learn German or swiss?
Languages spoken in Switzerland are German, French, Italian and Rumantsch. There is no such thing as a language called "Swiss". Please adhere to the forum rules, as I already pointed out, and use full English sentences.
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Re: Work permit for architects [non-EU]

Hello everybody. My husband is in Zurich for couple of days and he is liking the city, the people and is happy and ready to accept the transfer offer from his office. But he was saying that he may get the permit A. But in the above mentioned links, there's nothing about permit A. So is that something my husband is mistaken or there is something as permit A.
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Hello everybody. My husband is in Zurich for couple of days and he is liking the city, the people and is happy and ready to accept the transfer offer from his office. But he was saying that he may get the permit A. But in the above mentioned links, there's nothing about permit A. So is that something my husband is mistaken or there is something as permit A.
There is no longer a permit A. It was replaced by the L permit. (More or less) the A permit used to be for seasonal workers. If he gets an L permit, you will have the same which will make it difficult for you to be employed.
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Re: Work permit for architects [non-EU]

Oh my god! One tension is over about the city and the people but this employment tension still persists. I will try to learn German. And sorry for the English as I am very much used to write shortforms as some of the mobile communication applications have become a part of life, very sorry to say though.
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Re: Work permit for architects [non-EU]

I was in Switzerland from 2012 - 2013 working for an architecture office as a trainee while I was still in school back home (non-eu) and didn't have any issues with getting a temporary permit to come work for 1 year.

I have since returned to the same company now that I am finished school and am currently holding an L permit which as I understand it, can be renewed each year (I am sure for a limited amount of years?). I remember reading somewhere that you actually need to be in your home country in order to receive / send in your passport to the local authorities in order for them to put the sticker in your passport. Therefore I don't know that it's possible for a non-eu person to be granted a permit unless they are living in their home country.

I would think there would be exceptions to this rule though, for let's say, if you lose your job and find another one but need the permit to be re-issued for the new company. Or would they make you return home to pick up the permit? Just something to keep in mind I suppose
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I was in Switzerland from 2012 - 2013 working for an architecture office as a trainee while I was still in school back home (non-eu) and didn't have any issues with getting a temporary permit to come work for 1 year.

I have since returned to the same company now that I am finished school and am currently holding an L permit which as I understand it, can be renewed each year (I am sure for a limited amount of years?). I remember reading somewhere that you actually need to be in your home country in order to receive / send in your passport to the local authorities in order for them to put the sticker in your passport. Therefore I don't know that it's possible for a non-eu person to be granted a permit unless they are living in their home country.

I would think there would be exceptions to this rule though, for let's say, if you lose your job and find another one but need the permit to be re-issued for the new company. Or would they make you return home to pick up the permit? Just something to keep in mind I suppose
You are not picking up a permit, but an entry visa which are two different things. If this is your first job and you're not yet in Switzerland then provided the permit is approved by the Swiss authorities the entry visa will be issued by the Swiss embassy/consulate in your home country which then allows you to enter Switzerland long term legally, i.e. for more than 90 days. When you arrive in Switzerland you then go to the cantonal migration office to start off the process of getting your pre-approved permit issued. Once you have your permit, the visa is replaced by this for future exit/entry purposes. However, as you already hold an L permit there's no need for a new entry visa. If you do try and change jobs, then if the new employer's application is successful there's no need to leave the country and obtain a new visa - but being successful with a new permit application is difficult.

L permits are usually for one year and can be renewed for a second year, before either being cancelled or you move on to a one year B permit, also renewable annually. But some people have been on L permit for 3/4 years.
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You are not picking up a permit, but an entry visa which are two different things. If this is your first job and you're not yet in Switzerland then provided the permit is approved by the Swiss authorities the entry visa will be issued by the Swiss embassy/consulate in your home country which then allows you to enter Switzerland long term legally, i.e. for more than 90 days. When you arrive in Switzerland you then go to the cantonal migration office to start off the process of getting your pre-approved permit issued. Once you have your permit, the visa is replaced by this for future exit/entry purposes. However, as you already hold an L permit there's no need for a new entry visa. If you do try and change jobs, then if the new employer's application is successful there's no need to leave the country and obtain a new visa - but being successful with a new permit application is difficult.

L permits are usually for one year and can be renewed for a second year, before either being cancelled or you move on to a one year B permit, also renewable annually. But some people have been on L permit for 3/4 years.
This is very useful to know, thanks for providing me with the correct information Medea! Good to know about the permits as well, I kept receiving vague and misinformed information regarding this issue.
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Re: Work permit for architects [non-EU]

Well, like everything here it depends on what your job is, whether the canton is willing to extend any permit, whether your employer is prepared to put in a new application for the B, etc.

The legal basis for the hiring of non-EU nationals is here:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...zulassung.html

and the procedure here:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...ensablauf.html
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Great information, thank you!
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Thankyou Medea Fleecestealer and Franklin OSummers for the information. I will go through the links mentioned.
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