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Droit de vote as a foreigner

I understand that as a foreigner, you are allowed to vote in communal matters as long as you have been living in that canton for 8 years minimum. I am living in canton of geneva and I was wondering how is it possible as a foreigner to take part in voting. How can i vote?
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Re: Droit de vote as a foreigner

I think it varies from canton to canton and commune to commune as to whether a foreigner can vote on local issues or not. If you are eligible to vote, you will receive the necessary voting paraphernalia without having to actively register to do so.


Edit: This only applies to C-permit holders, by the way.
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Re: Droit de vote as a foreigner

Oh, so if you're a diplomat, you don't have the right to vote? Why was I asked if I have voted.
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Old 19.10.2015, 14:21
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Oh, so if you're a diplomat, you don't have the right to vote? Why was I asked if I have voted.
Not as far as I know, no. Why would you? I've no idea if you were asked whether you voted, who asked you? Even a C-holder wouldn't have been eligible to vote in the recent assembly elections anyway.
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Re: Droit de vote as a foreigner

You need to fill out a form and include some documentation:

https://www.eda.admin.ch/missions/mi...te-geneve.html
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Not as far as I know, no. Why would you? I've no idea if you were asked whether you voted, who asked you? Even a C-holder wouldn't have been eligible to vote in the recent assembly elections anyway.
Not even at the communal level?

Let me double check the formulaire that I needed to fill in and get back.
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Re: Droit de vote as a foreigner

You can vote at commune level, but not cantonal or federal.
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Oh, so if you're a diplomat, you don't have the right to vote? Why was I asked if I have voted.
I would have thought that as a diplomatic representative of another nation, they could be a conflict of interests in voting here - even at a local level.

Diplomats (and Consular Officers) are not treated the same as other non-Swiss nationals living and working here.
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I would have thought that as a diplomatic representative of another nation, they could be a conflict of interests in voting here - even at a local level.

Diplomats (and Consular Officers) are not treated the same as other non-Swiss nationals living and working here.
Not according to the link MajorGrubert posted.

"Assigns and conditions to be met

The beneficiaries are international civil servants and members of their families who meet (individually) the following cumulative conditions:

be 18 years old at least

hold a legitimation card of the Federal Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) to "B", "C", "D", "E", "G", "H", "I", "L" , "P" or a Ci permit dependency on one of the aforementioned cards

have a legal domicile in Switzerland for at least 8 years

be domiciled in a Geneva commune and have announced the Cantonal Population Office (which is required under Swiss law for the constitution of the political home)

Moreover, the exercise of voting rights can not violate the internal regulations of the international organization to which belong the persons mentioned above. It is their responsibility to ensure this to the competent authority of their international organization before you take steps to enforce this right."

So long as they meet the requirements they can vote in the communal elections.
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be domiciled in a Geneva commune and have announced the Cantonal Population Office (which is required under Swiss law for the constitution of the political home)
What do you mean here?
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Re: Droit de vote as a foreigner

The French is this:

"être domiciliés dans une commune genevoise et l'avoir annoncé à l'Office cantonal de la population (ce qui est exigé en droit suisse pour la constitution du domicile politique)"

Blame Google Translate for the English version.
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Well, that's the literal translation I was referring to what it actually meant because I didn't quite understand the announcing part.
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Well, that's the literal translation I was referring to what it actually meant because I didn't quite understand the announcing part.
You've lived 8+ years in Geneva, and don't udersatnd basic French?

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Well, that's the literal translation I was referring to what it actually meant because I didn't quite understand the announcing part.
It means that you have to live in one of the communes in Geneva and have declared your residence there to the cantonal population office ( as required by Swiss law if you want it to be considered as your political home- in other words if you want to vote here).
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You've lived 8+ years in Geneva, and don't udersatnd basic French?

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Make that 17 and no I still don't!
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You've lived 8+ years in Geneva, and don't udersatnd basic French?

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And you clearly didn't understand what I said in english. I meant to ask about the procedure of announcing Geneva as my "political home".
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