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Does Imigrations Office takes in consideration for working permit fact that you live with other people? I mean not paying everything alone. If you live with someone you share your bills and you will have more money for yourself.
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Old 27.10.2015, 18:03
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Does Imigrations Office takes in consideration for working permit fact that you live with other people? I mean not paying everything alone. If you live with someone you share your bills and you will have more money for yourself.
What did the Imigrations Office tell you when you asked them that question?
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What did the Imigrations Office tell you when you asked them that question?
I did not ask that. Just wondering if anyone here had this situation maybe.
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Re: Sharing apartment

But, why would the immigration office cares about that?
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Because they want to know you can support yourself financially. If your bills are shared then your expenses aren't as high so a slightly lower salary may still get you a permit.
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Does Imigrations Office takes in consideration for working permit fact that you live with other people? I mean not paying everything alone. If you live with someone you share your bills and you will have more money for yourself.
When my cousin-in-law Bernadette first moved to Switzerland, she was resident in the workhouse with 350 other fallen women. The fact that she shared her accommodation was taken into account by the authorities who proceeded to send her to debtors' prison where she learnt a trade (panel beating) before being released into the wild to pursue her fortune.

I would recommend hiding in the cellar and denying all knowledge of housemates should the immigrations office come knocking. They can't prove anything, especially if you climb into the boiler, although this last action should only be taken in extreme circumstances and especially only in the summer. Otherwise just lie through your teeth and tell them you're a hermit. Some local authorities provide caves for this purpose.
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Does Imigrations Office takes in consideration for working permit fact that you live with other people? I mean not paying everything alone. If you live with someone you share your bills and you will have more money for yourself.
I'm sharing my apartment with 2 other people. Immigration never asked questions about it. Might be because they are my wife and daughter.
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Because they want to know you can support yourself financially. If your bills are shared then your expenses aren't as high so a slightly lower salary may still get you a permit.
So you think my friend should tell them that she will live with me and 2 more people? And we gona share our bills.
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I'm sharing my apartment with 2 other people. Immigration never asked questions about it. Might be because they are my wife and daughter.
Your wife and daughter are the immigration department?

Is that how you got your permit?
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Her salary should be 2500-2800. Um 4 of us would live in apartmen. Every person would pay 600 for all house bills.
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Your wife and daughter are the immigration department?

Is that how you got your permit?
Actually, the are the department of justice.
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Because they want to know you can support yourself financially. If your bills are shared then your expenses aren't as high so a slightly lower salary may still get you a permit.
Do you have any figures? Is there a way to work that all of that out in advance?
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So you think my friend should tell them that she will live with me and 2 more people? And we gona share our bills.
She can mention it. Maybe it will make a difference, maybe it won't. The permit will be granted if she can support herself and any children she has with her.

When registering though it should in some way already become apparent and known to the authorities who is living where and who is living with who in each building and each apartment.
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She can mention it. Maybe it will make a difference, maybe it won't. The permit will be granted if she can support herself and any children she has with her.
She is 21 years old. No partner no kids.
She has to bring rental agreement. And its on our friends name, so they will see that she doesnt live alone.
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She is 21 years old. No partner no kids.
She has to bring rental agreement. And its on our friends name, so they will see that she doesnt live alone.
If she is staying with someone as a guest, then she is not renting, she is recorded as a guest. That rental agreement is in someone else's name, so she won't need to take the rental agreement, she needs to simply declare who she is living with.
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If she is staying with someone as a guest, then she is not renting, she is recorded as a guest. That rental agreement is in someone else's name, so she won't need to take the rental agreement, she needs to simply declare who she is living with.
We already asked, and they just said bring it and nothing else. And to bring person who is renting apartment with us.
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We already asked, and they just said bring it and nothing else. And to bring person who is renting apartment with us.
I don't see that it is of any use as it is not in her name. Ordinarily you have to simply declare where you are living as a guest or as an owner. Only tenants normally have to show a rental agreement, and only if asked to show one. I personally have never shown one and I rented years ago in two different towns.
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I don't see that it is of any use as it is not in her name. Ordinarily you have to simply declare where you are living as a guest or as an owner. Only tenants normally have to show a rental agreement, and only if asked to show one. I personally have never shown one and I rented years ago in two different towns.
Well will see everything when she gets her work contract, we are hoping for the best
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I'm sharing my apartment with 2 other people. Immigration never asked questions about it. Might be because they are my wife and daughter.
If your apartment doesn't fit with space requirements for foreigners, your permit can be revoked at any moment.
That the people living with you are your family members, is no help.


Foreigners in Switzerland have to respect - at least theoretically - mimimum requirements for their homes, i.e. number of persons minus one = minimal number of rooms.
If cantonal authorities have the resources to control this or if they just decide to overlook it deliberately, is up to them.


But it can definitely turn out to be a Problem.


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Her salary should be 2500-2800. Um 4 of us would live in apartmen. Every person would pay 600 for all house bills.
The other issue is salary. This one could be too low to get a permit.
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If your apartment doesn't fit with space requirements for foreigners, your permit can be revoked at any moment.
That the people living with you are your family members, is no help.

Foreigners in Switzerland have to respect - at least theoretically - mimimum requirements for their homes, i.e. number of persons minus one = minimal number of rooms.
If cantonal authorities have the resources to control this or if they just decide to overlook it deliberately, is up to them.
But it can definitely turn out to be a Problem.
true, just for accuracy this is not about foreigners, it's just considered the minimum living standard, permanent residents can actually get help to pay rent because of this. it's true that it makes things more difficult for people with precarious permits in certain cantons, but it's not common to find WGs where people share the bedroom in switzerland unless they are relatives.
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How big is the apartment you're living in?

As long as your "friend" can show an Untermietervertrag and that the landlord is aware that the Hauptmieter is sub-letting parts of the apartment. They really don't care.

If, however, you have 20 people registering at the same address to save money on bills (aka tax purposes), they will for sure be suspicious and ask you to provide more info.

You are not the first group of people to have a WG. So there shouldn't be a problem as long as it's all above board.
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