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Old 02.11.2015, 22:48
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

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Apart from Bilag, no doubt other things. You always look to cheat the system at every point, being economical with the truth. Eventually you will get caught in CH.
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Billag is not compulsory.
I have no access to a working TV set that can receive any live programming, let alone the ones that Billag finances.
As mentioned on another thread, I contacted Billag 3 times to enquire as to whether a person in my situation (as far as equipment is concerned) has to pay Billag, they didn't bother to reply to any of my emails.
So I base my non-payment/exemption on what I was told previously by one of their inspectors: no working (receiving) TV set = no Billag licence required. And in any case I could claim that I am exempt for other reasons.

Presumably with a change in the way it is collected, it is probably not worth the bother and hassle of anyone new (arriving in Switzerland) registering for Billag until the new system comes into effect (2018/2019)! From that point on possibly more people (who currently don't pay) might have to start paying something! At present Billag certainly don't seem to be too bothered that people don't pay. How efficient can they be in detection, if they don't even reply to simple correspondence written in a national language?!
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How can I get a fine, I don't have a TV set that can receive programming and am not registered with Billag? I have no access to a working TV set that can receive any live programming, let alone the ones that Billag finances.
As mentioned on another thread, I contacted Billag 3 times to enquire as to whether a person in my situation (as far as equipment is concerned) has to pay Billag, they didn't bother to reply to any of my emails.
So I base my non-payment/exemption on what I was told previously by one of their inspectors: no working (receiving) TV set = no Billag licence required. What part of that do you not understand?
Billag has to contact me if they want me to register with them and/or pay. Only then would any monthly fee be due, from that moment. Not for the past, as it can't be proven that TV was watched or accessed in the past. I have no TV service and the cable socket is sealed. If they do contact me (by registered letter), I will be happy to inform them of my situation and/or exemption.
No job needed here. I am paid already to stay at home! I leave the bank robbing to you and/or others!
Can we please not turn this thread into yet another Billag thread. You've already made the same posts ad nauseum elsewhere.
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

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I might suggest that to my boss as a solution to the problem of some of our more annoying colleagues...
Some companies in Switzerland evidently prefer to keep some employees (that they actually consider ex-employees) at home and pay them to do so! I happen to be one of those, but I didn't ask to be, neither did many others who are in the same situation.
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Can we please not turn this thread into yet another Billag thread. You've already made the same posts ad nauseum elsewhere.
Nobody is forcing you to read/follow/comment on this particular thread. I believe there are literally hundreds of others to choose from!
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Old 02.11.2015, 23:10
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Nobody is forcing you to read/follow/comment on this particular thread. I believe there are literally hundreds of others to choose from!
Indeed, but this thread is about registering on arrival not Billag.
There are plenty of Billag related threads in the correct section of the forum where you can do your Billag rambling so please make your Billag comments there. I always ignore those ones.
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Indeed, but this thread is about registering on arrival not Billag.
There are plenty of Billag related threads in the correct section of the forum where you can do your Billag rambling so please make your Billag comments there. I always ignore those ones.
I was questioned about Billag and other matters and merely responded to the wild accusations. Threads can evolve and new discussions can open up. I am amazed you don't know that.
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Old 03.11.2015, 11:09
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I was questioned about Billag and other matters and merely responded to the wild accusations. Threads can evolve and new discussions can open up. I am amazed you don't know that.
I know that and so do most others on here but it's very impolite and disrespectful to the OP to drag his thread off on an unnecessary tangent which has nothing remotely to do with the main topic of the thread.

The polite thing to do would be to respond to the accusation by saying 'Billag has been discussed elsewhere and is not appropriate here' and leave it at that. I'm amazed you don't know that given your aversion to 'rudeness'.
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Old 03.11.2015, 16:02
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

Thanks y'all! I got more than I asked for but still, all good information for a new comer.

So I gathered that there isn't a dependency issue with the residency permit, with DW being a stay-at-home Mum and particularly so, should we have to register separately.

Interesting point on health insurance. Nevertheless, I imagine us getting a family package instead of individual plans, and in which case, I also imagine that it will be anchored solely on my residency stats. Surely, that is the case...

And I did look up this one... billags are expensive, aren't they? The rules for it are far greater reaching then they are here in UK. But for the record, we will be paying it, all the more when there's the promise of all that Fiber7 goodness - just hoping we get fiber where we are headed. Actually, if I was being entirely fair, anything in Switzerland is going to be better than the patchy 4Mb/s I get right now!
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Old 03.11.2015, 16:10
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So I gathered that there isn't a dependency issue with the residency permit, with DW being a stay-at-home Mum and particularly so, should we have to register separately.
To be clear, there is a dependency - you have to get yours first as the earner! After that it isn't an issue when your family arrives and registers.

It's also worth bearing in mind you have to pay to change addresses on the permit - so if you can register everyone at your long-term address it's a bit easier and cheaper.

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Old 03.11.2015, 16:12
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

Your family will apply for their permits under the 'family reunification' system so they will ask for proof that you can afford to support them so they will be dependent on you and their arrival date will have no effect on that.

Health insurance is individual and the concept of a family package doesn't really exist here but it would make sense to insure the whole family with the same insurer then you only have one company to deal with. You may end up having to pay for a month or two more than the rest of them depending on your exact arrival dates but you have three months to set it all up so you can all apply at the same time ( unless they'll arrive more than 3 months after you.)

For most people Billag is just something you have to suck up and pay but some people have a bee in their bonnet about it. It's not a problem if you take it into account in your monthly budget.
We're in a rural area and we have 100Mb+ Internet.
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

Super! That'll work for us, either which way we end up.

And here's more good news. We just secured a new build apartment this morning, this on the basis that we're not there yet and I'll be on the L-permit! For the longest time, we were worried that it could prove next to impossible to land something with circumstances such as ours. So take heart those who are constrained like us! Perhaps to some extent it also had to do with the time of the year. We received 6 acceptances for the 9 applications made. Such a relief to know we will get to move right in when we arrive - no service apartments, no hotel rooms, no change of addresses, no more moves.

Ahh that's a new one on health insurance for me - individual plans only. Will bear that in mind.

I'm just right outside Zone 1 in London - there is no cable and still no fiber connections - a modern day twilight zone.
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No job needed here. I am paid already to stay at home! I leave the bank robbing to you and/or others!
... and here you go - paid to stay at home by the rest of the community.

The system of AI is fantatstic- and should be strictly reserved for those who are too sick to work. As Fatman says ... constantly taking the **** and expecting others to pay for you. Makes me boil - when I know how many people who truly need to get AI are having their conditions and payments re-assessed all the time, despite their severe disabilities

OP if any of you have an accident- the immediate emergency costs will be paid if you have a valid EHIC card- but none of the following costs or repatriation, etc. And illness will not be covered- now, touch wood, and I so hope you will all be fine for a very long time, but severe illness can strike at any time, sadly, children included- and then, what then? Just does not bear thinking about.
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Old 03.11.2015, 19:04
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

Odile, you're getting annoyed over nothing. Our temporarily banned user is just trolling and making up a life story. It's like the Daily Mail.
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

Sorry- but I know a few people who take the **** of the AI system- and it does grieve me- as I also know others who are totally deserving and who get their entitlement constantly and unfairly re-assessed and challenged.

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OP if any of you have an accident- the immediate emergency costs will be paid if you have a valid EHIC card- but none of the following costs or repatriation, etc. And illness will not be covered- now, touch wood, and I so hope you will all be fine for a very long time, but severe illness can strike at any time, sadly, children included- and then, what then? Just does not bear thinking about.


Thanks for the concern, Odile. The one chief concern here for me had to do with residency registration, if any of us would have problems registering if I arrived in Switzerland ahead of the rest of the family and had registered first.


We're all getting health insurance, that's for sure.
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

How old are the children? As said above, if they want to attend school, they will have to be registered anyhow. But it is quite common and fine to register at different dates if you arrive at different dates.
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I know that and so do most others on here but it's very impolite and disrespectful to the OP to drag his thread off on an unnecessary tangent which has nothing remotely to do with the main topic of the thread.

The polite thing to do would be to respond to the accusation by saying 'Billag has been discussed elsewhere and is not appropriate here' and leave it at that. I'm amazed you don't know that given your aversion to 'rudeness'.
I did not bring up the Billag discussion on this thread. If you are so concerned though, you can ask for the thread to be split! There shouldn't be a problem then!

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Odile, you're getting annoyed over nothing. ....

making up a life story.
Nothing is made up. I am actually on IV/AI! I didn't ask to be put on it. My employer put several of us on it, it is all fairly automatic once the employer requests this! Once you are on it, especially if at 100% like we are, it's very difficult to get taken off it!
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