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Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

As I will have to begin work soon after arriving, I will likely have to arrive and register first (prior to commencement of work). As the wife will not be working, will there be issues with her and the kids applying later? We are all EU nationals. Wondering if there is any element of they being dependencies here that may have an impact on their registration and if we need to all register together. There is little information on this even after scouring the web. Thanks!
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Old 02.11.2015, 20:04
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

None at all. As long as your wife and children register within the time limit after their arrival (8 or 14 days I can't remember which) there will be no problem.
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As I will have to begin work soon after arriving, I will likely have to arrive and register first (prior to commencement of work). As the wife will not be working, will there be issues with her and the kids applying later? We are all EU nationals. Wondering if there is any element of they being dependencies here that may have an impact on their registration and if we need to all register together. There is little information on this even after scouring the web. Thanks!
In theory you have to register within the 8-14 days of arrival. But that is only in theory. Since the entry date can't be proven, your wife and children can register at a later date, even if they have already arrived. Just make sure when you do register them, that they declare that they have literally 'just arrived'.
This will avoid you having to pay for health insurance for the time already spent here for example! And the savings can be quite large on that one! I know, because I myself registered over one year after actually having arrived here! However in my case I was not working here, well not officially anyway!
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Old 02.11.2015, 20:21
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

He'll have to register the kids if he wants them to go to school. They could theoretically be here for 90 days as tourist before registering but I don't really see the point in doing that if they're moving here permenantly, especially if they have school age kids.

Encouraging people to break the law is not a very clever thing to do in my opinion.
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In theory you have to register within the 8-14 days of arrival. But that is only in theory. Since the entry date can't be proven, your wife and children can register at a later date, even if they have already arrived. Just make sure when you do register them, that they declare that they have literally 'just arrived'.
This will avoid you having to pay for health insurance for the time already spent here for example! And the savings can be quite large on that one! I know, because I myself registered over one year after actually having arrived here! However in my case I was not working here, well not officially anyway!
I won't even bother explaining the consequences of this kind of action.
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He'll have to register the kids if he wants them to go to school. They could theoretically be here for 90 days as tourist before registering but I don't really see the point in doing that if they're moving here permenantly, especially if they have school age kids.

Encouraging people to break the law is not a very clever thing to do in my opinion.
Nobody is encouraging anybody to do anything. Though if they don't register wife and children, for the first 90 days, then there will be a considerable saving on health insurance premiums, which is not to be sniffed at!
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Nobody is encouraging anybody to do anything. Though if they don't register wife and children, for the first 90 days, then there will be a considerable saving on health insurance premiums, which is not to be sniffed at!
And what if one of them gets sick during that time?
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And what if one of them gets sick during that time?
Hopefully they have a European Health Card which covers them or private insurance taken out in the home/previous country before departure, until they register here they are still legally resident in the home/previous country! Otherwise they may have to pay for treatment themselves.
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Old 02.11.2015, 21:54
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Re: Any issues with the rest of the family registering residency on a different date?

Call me boring, but I would much prefer to follow the rules than having to worry about things going wrong and dealing with the consequences when they do.
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Old 02.11.2015, 21:54
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Hopefully they have a European Health Card which covers them or private insurance taken out in the home/previous country before departure, until they register here they are still legally resident in the home/previous country! Otherwise they may have to pay for treatment themselves.
They could just as easily have no legal residence anywhere in the world..... If you left & don't have a home it would be difficult to pretend you did.

You really do take the piss all the time, no doubt you will get caught eventually. Don't expect any sympathy.
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Call me boring, but I would much prefer to follow the rules than having to worry about things going wrong and dealing with the consequences when they do.
Hardly an issue if they are already covered with the card or with another insurance policy. If they are not resident then they obviously won't have a Krankenkasse yet in any case!
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They could just as easily have no legal residence anywhere in the world..... If you left & don't have a home it would be difficult to pretend you did.
You really do take the piss all the time, no doubt you will get caught eventually. Don't expect any sympathy.
Get caught doing what? I am personally not doing anything illegal. I don't understand the meaning of your post.
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Old 02.11.2015, 22:23
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I am personally not doing anything illegal. I don't understand the meaning of your post.
Apart from Bilag, no doubt other things. You always look to cheat the system at every point, being economical with the truth. Eventually you will get caught in CH.
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Apart from Bilag, no doubt other things. You always look to cheat the system at every point, being economical with the truth. Eventually you will get caught in CH.
Billag is not compulsory.
I have no access to a working TV set that can receive any live programming, let alone the ones that Billag finances.
As mentioned on another thread, I contacted Billag 3 times to enquire as to whether a person in my situation (as far as equipment is concerned) has to pay Billag, they didn't bother to reply to any of my emails.
So I base my non-payment/exemption on what I was told previously by one of their inspectors: no working (receiving) TV set = no Billag licence required. And in any case I could claim that I am exempt for other reasons.

Presumably with a change in the way it is collected, it is probably not worth the bother and hassle of anyone new (arriving in Switzerland) registering for Billag until the new system comes into effect (2018/2019)! From that point on possibly more people (who currently don't pay) might have to start paying something! At present Billag certainly don't seem to be too bothered that people don't pay. How efficient can they be in detection, if they don't even reply to simple correspondence written in a national language?!
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Old 02.11.2015, 22:39
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Billag is not compulsory.
I have no access to a working TV set that can receive any live programming, let alone the ones that Billag finances.
As mentioned on another thread, I contacted Billag 3 times to enquire as to whether a person in my situation (as far as equipment is concerned) has to pay Billag, they didn't bother to reply to any of my emails.
So I base my non-payment/exemption on what I was told previously by one of their inspectors: no working (receiving) TV set = no Billag licence required. And in any case I could claim that I am exempt for other reasons.

Presumably with a change in the way it is collected, it is probably not worth the bother and hassle of anyone new (arriving in Switzerland) registering for Billag until the new system comes into effect (2018/2019)! From that point on possibly more people (who currently don't pay) might have to start paying something! At present Billag certainly don't seem to be too bothered that people don't pay. How efficient can they be in detection, if they don't even reply to simple correspondence written in a national language?!
When you get a 5,000 fine for not paying Bilag don't complain on the forum
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In theory you have to register within the 8-14 days of arrival. But that is only in theory. Since the entry date can't be proven, your wife and children can register at a later date, even if they have already arrived. Just make sure when you do register them, that they declare that they have literally 'just arrived'.
This will avoid you having to pay for health insurance for the time already spent here for example! And the savings can be quite large on that one! I know, because I myself registered over one year after actually having arrived here! However in my case I was not working here, well not officially anyway!
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Why create a sarcastic list but throw a valid one in at the end?
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When you get a 5,000 fine for not paying Bilag don't complain on the forum
How can I get a fine, I don't have a TV set that can receive programming and am not registered with Billag? I have no access to a working TV set that can receive any live programming, let alone the ones that Billag finances.
As mentioned on another thread, I contacted Billag 3 times to enquire as to whether a person in my situation (as far as equipment is concerned) has to pay Billag, they didn't bother to reply to any of my emails.
So I base my non-payment/exemption on what I was told previously by one of their inspectors: no working (receiving) TV set = no Billag licence required. What part of that do you not understand?
Billag has to contact me if they want me to register with them and/or pay. Only then would any monthly fee be due, from that moment. Not for the past, as it can't be proven that TV was watched or accessed in the past. I have no TV service and the cable socket is sealed. If they do contact me (by registered letter), I will be happy to inform them of my situation and/or exemption.
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Rob a bank - save the bother of looking for a job!
No job needed here. I am paid already to stay at home! I leave the bank robbing to you and/or others!
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Why create a sarcastic list but throw a valid one in at the end?
I assume you're referring to this:

http://www.thelocal.ch/20151102/reti...ds-eating-cats
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When you get a 5,000 fine for not paying Bilag don't complain on the forum
Oh please do, the opportunities for "told you so" are just too good
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I am paid already to stay at home!
I might suggest that to my boss as a solution to the problem of some of our more annoying colleagues...
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