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Old 06.11.2015, 17:31
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Dependent permit for brother [non-EU]

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I'm looking for info on how to get my brother to live with us. He is 40 years old, no kids, separated (we dont have divorce in the philippines) Is it even possible to get him a family reunification visa? He is a lawyer. He is successful but in trouble with alot of corrupt officials and gets alot of death threats. This is going on for some years now. Sometimes he needs to "disappear" for some weeks or months to hide from the corrupt officials that he exposed. He has been involved in high profile cases. I dont know if that would be a valid reason to give him a visa. Im living here for almost 5 years now on a B permit but im not working. I have a "mini job" for 2 years now while being a stay at home mom but regarding the other requirements..we have 4.5 rooms and my husband makes more than enough. Can anyone give some info on this?

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Re: Dependent visa for disabled sister --is it possible?

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If your brother is potentially in danger, with death threats, then I would think you should not post a single thing about him on a public forum. The English Forum is totally public and can be accessed from all over the internet.
Perhaps a moderator can delete your post for you, and this one of mine, in order to keep your brother safe.
You could make your enquiries in private, based on the advice already posted by jrspet above.
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Old 06.11.2015, 18:11
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Re: Dependent visa for disabled sister --is it possible?

No, not under family reunification. Only hope - try and get out of the country and seek asylum elsewhere.
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Old 06.11.2015, 22:02
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Re: Dependent visa for disabled sister --is it possible?

I didnt post any personal details of him and of myself so i dont see any danger in it. I grew up exposed to death threats because of my family background. I have already looked at official info but its very limited and then i found this thread and seems like there is a possibility? it may look like an asylum status is what he needs but then that would mean he has to depend on welfare when he doesnt have to because im here and i could support him until he finds a job? Atleast thats how i see it.
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Old 06.11.2015, 22:26
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Re: Dependent visa for disabled sister --is it possible?

He's too old to be your dependent, nor is he your spouse or your child.

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification/

Nor is he financially dependent on you already which would be another condition required for any application.

As Meloncollie has pointed out in other threads, it's extremely difficult to get permission to even bring a parent or parents over if you're a non-EU national. A grown up sibling, able to earn his own living - no chance.

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Re: Dependent visa for disabled sister --is it possible?

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I didnt post any personal details of him and of myself so i dont see any danger in it.
Oh, dear.
I think
- gender,
- age
- marital status
- profession,
- country, plus
- Reason-for-Death-Threats...
well, it seems to me that's more than enough information for anyone who did not feel well-intended towards your brother.
I hope he is safe.
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Old 06.11.2015, 22:42
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Re: Dependent visa for disabled sister --is it possible?

Thanks, i have read that page before finding this thread. I know some non-eus here who got the reunification visa for their parents. Didnt know its difficult if you know the requirements.
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Re: Dependent visa for disabled sister --is it possible?

Like everything else here it depends on the canton you live in. Some are possibly more open than others. I know Meloncoliie was investigating getting her parents over, but it was a long, long process and in the end they decided it was better for the parents to stay where they were.

It would also depend on whether there are any other relatives in your home country who could look after your brother. If so, again that is a negative against any application. And as a non-EU B permit holder you have no automatic right to bring any family here anyway. It's only if your canton agrees that you might be able to do it. But he doesn't meet the dependent's criteria at all so although you could enquire at your cantonal migration office I think the answer would be no.
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Thanks medea for your input. Appreciate it.
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Old 06.11.2015, 23:55
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Re: Dependent visa for disabled sister --is it possible?

Just trying to think of options for you and him...although he might not want to apply for asylum wouldn't that be best to get him out of where he is? I am not sure asylum seekers have to be financially destitute and on welfare, particularly if their lives are in danger.
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Just wish it was better news for you stephanienie.
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Re: Dependent visa for disabled sister --is it possible?

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Stephanie, your brother's situation is nothing like ours with my FIL. In our case the reason for the application was dependency of a parent, both physical and financial. That your brother is not of retirement age, that he is able-bodied, can physically care for himself and can work to support himself probably puts your situation into a different category altogether. So my experience probably cannot offer much insight into yours.

As Medea has said, a non-EU has no intrinsic right of reunification. From what I have seen, it would appear that cases are handled on an individual basis. And from anecdotal stories I have heard, attitudes of authorities towards 'chain migration' seem to vary widely across the cantons/communities.

Do I remember that your husband is Swiss? If so perhaps he should be the one to start researching this rather than you. Perhaps the authorities might take a more favorable view of a citizen's request than one from a non-EU B permit holder. He should start by having an informal 'hypothetical' discussion with the community Einwohneramt. (If your husband is the main family breadwinner, his sponsorship would probably be an important factor anyway.)

I would also suggest that you get in contact with one of the organizations whose focus is on helping those seeking asylum. I understand this might not be the path you wish to pursue, but given what you have described in your brother's case these types of organizations might be better placed to advise you on possibilities.

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Our process was long and drawn out, so long that FIL died in the interim so we withdrew the application and will never know what the outcome might have been. I would expect whichever course you choose to pursue that the decision might take time.

While the process is ongoing, is there a way to get your brother out of immediate danger? Are there other friends or relatives in other countries he could visit, even if only for short stays?

Wishing you and your family all the very best.
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Re: Dependent permit for brother [non-EU]

For asylum, he could also try Australia...either for a working visa or as a political refugee...
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Re: Dependent permit for brother [non-EU]

Thanks so much everyone, i have stopped checking on my post but now surprised i got my own thread. I experienced something like a crash when my bro left. Its saddening listening to how conditions have turnd out for the worse for famly/people i left. My husband is German but we will ask around maybe starting at the gemeindehaus. I have a sister in the US who is working on my dadīs citizenship but it still takes more than 2 years before he will have the right to invite my brother. I hope i will find something...some hope.
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Can anyone share other links or useful info? we are now looking at the option to seek asylum here. Is it an advantage for my broīs case that he has family here or would he have better chance somewhere else? Im very grateful for all help

https://www.ch.ch/en/applying-asylum/
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More here:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home/asyl/asyl.html

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...verfahren.html
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