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Re: I need help to joint my daughter in lugano Help please!!!

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I don't really understand your reaction to Swissbob's post.
Are you looking for sympathy - or solutions?
It is very sad when a father cannot regularly see his child and the child misses out on a close relationship with her father.

Here is a possible solution.
Finding a job (perhaps in Ticino or even Northern Italy) would enable you to earn your living (you must get some money from somewhere) and also visit your daughter regularly.
wow, you mean people can actually help themselves in such situations?

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Old 17.07.2008, 11:26
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

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Actually my understanding is that the parents weren't married to begin with. I believe in that case custody is awarded automatically to the mother.
This is indeed right and I'm starting to wonder if the parents have recognised the OP's paternity at the civil registry office. If they did, they'd still have to apply for shared custody.
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Old 17.07.2008, 11:28
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

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I suppose the DAD has not right in this world ???.

And the SWISS and others EEC member if you are the DAD of a child you have to paye maintenance.I have being contacted by the swiss child benefit to pay maintenance for my child and I said to them where is my right to see my daughter????. Who will give me my right toable me to move to see my daughter ????.

I was asking myself is that justice equality between man and women????.

Who will see how i feel because me too I was to give affection and love to my daughter and I am sure the child has all right in this world to be with his mum and DAD also???

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You probably don't want the hear this BUT:

Why did the mother of your child move to Teccino? Was this to be as far away from you as possible? What will her reaction be if you "joint (sic) my family even I am not with her mum?"

Whatever separated you and your partner, not paying for your child's support will not help matters - at all. Especially if maintenance was subject to a court order.

Unless you have a court order/decision (and one made in the UK may well not apply elsewhere) granting you visiting rights, your child's mother can prevent you seeing your daughter.

If I were you (and have have been in this situation) I would:

1) Make all back payments due and continue regular maintenance as agreed by the court. Not only as a gesture of goodwill, but as it is a legal requirement to maintain your daughter.

2) After you have done 1) contact your daughter's mother suggesting that you allowed to have contact with your daughter.

Just turning up to live nearby will turn you into the unwanted dad from hell...
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

Sorry I don't have any problem with her mum incontrary i get on well with her mum but the only things me and her we don't want to get married because of private issue but my relationship with her mum is very good also I give money to my daughter because I love her not because I have being told to do so???

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Old 17.07.2008, 11:58
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

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I give money to my daughter because I love her not because I have being told to do so???

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This is not what is implied here:
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I have being contacted by the swiss child benefit to pay maintenance for my child and I said to them where is my right to see my daughter????. Who will give me my right toable me to move to see my daughter ????.
As if you have been contacted to pay maintenance, this means that you are not paying...
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

i was just administrative procedure afterward i made it clear that me and her mum we have an arrangment between us but the point i want to make is why none or why the law don't give the right for me to be next to my daughter it mean it will give me the same the right as her mum ????

Also for IT job at the moment the market is not good

Right for DAD to joint his daughter Right for the child to see and be next to his Dad right for child to have a balance life
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Old 17.07.2008, 12:18
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the point i want to make is why none or why the law don't give the right for me to be next to my daughter it mean it will give me the same the right as her mum ????
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Right for DAD to joint his daughter Right for the child to see and be next to his Dad right for child to have a balance life
Yes, you'd think in this enlightened age of equality, dads would have equal rights. They don't.

It's unfair and has lead to the fathers' rights movement and a number of spectacular protests in the UK...
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

Thank you for all your advice it was really helpfull but unfortunatly their is nothing i can do only either to find a job in switzerland or find a job in milan but family rule will not applie for me specially i am from a Non-EEC country.

I am really stuck. i can't travel because i am waiting to get my permit here in UK because now i am an alien and now i received more bad news from my MP who said he can't push the immigration to make a desicion in my case until my application done 3 years in the queue it mean till 2009.that great news for me.

Anyway thanks for all your advice at least i have a picture
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

Ok, si it sounds like you can't leave the uk at the moment.

If you get on with the mother well, why don't you pay for her and your daughter to visit? Or, she is school age now, why don't you arrange for her to come over to England and spend a part of the school holidays with you?

Just an idea, don't know if it's any help?
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

I will wait till i get granted to stay in UK and then i will go and see her myself

Her mum brought her in the UK once in 5 years

But her mum she knows I can't come just say tomorrow mybe next christmas or next easter or in summer anyway io gave up longtime in her mum

thanks anyway

I realise if you hae children and you are divorce with your wife or separated with x-girlfiend in the WEST. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT. SHE WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY YOUR HOUSE YOUR CHILDRENS .
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Old 20.07.2008, 15:08
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I realise if you hae children and you are divorce with your wife or separated with x-girlfiend in the WEST. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT. SHE WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY YOUR HOUSE YOUR CHILDRENS .
The "West", where you choose to live?

In the "East" (I assume that's the opposite), what would happen? The woman would have to obey you and do as she's told?

I'm honestly interested in whether this is true or what I've been brainwashed to believe.
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Old 20.07.2008, 15:13
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I am really stuck. i can't travel because i am waiting to get my permit here in UK because now i am an alien and now i received more bad news from my MP who said he can't push the immigration to make a desicion in my case until my application done 3 years in the queue it mean till 2009.that great news for me.
Are you sure that the British permit application process takes three years and prohibits that you leave the country in this period?
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

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Are you sure that the British permit application process takes three years and prohibits that you leave the country in this period?
I would guess the op is an asylum seaker in which case this would be on the optimistic side.
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

first i am not an asylum like you mention. you think you are superior than others

second as soon someone has an opposite opinion specially when it come to women you start sending bullet of anger. therefore what make you different from the religiouse people who doesn't like people speak free.????

Anyway i gave up

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Old 20.07.2008, 16:32
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

well based on the information you gave, it sounded like it. MP involvement, 3 years to process an application...?

There is no bullet of anger; there is only your bolded text.
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

Ok, I don't understand.......

You first say that you have a good relationship with the mother, but then you say that she won't bring your child to visit and that you have given up on her and then go on to say she will take your house, money and children. That doesn't sound like a good relationship to me.
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Re: I Want To Move To Live With My Daughter In Lugano

Another thing I don't understand is that people have given you possible solutions, move to Italy, get a job offer in Switzerland, get your daughter to come and see you.............. if you are desperate to see her I would expect you to say "Great ideas I'll look into them" but instead you give up and say there is nothing you can do.

Also why can't you leave the UK to visit her, even if you are waiting for the right to remain in the UK, you must be on some sort of Visa or permit..... why can't you travel????

I may be totally wrong but it sounds to me like you want to use your daughter as a way to get residency in Europe.
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