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Old 30.10.2008, 14:23
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INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Hi,

This question is for any Indian that is reading this post- or just about anyone who happens to know the answer!

My husband has a work visa to work in switzerland, and i would like to apply for a spouse visa. when i called up the embassy in mumbai, they said i need to submit- along with the application- our original marriage certificate after it is "legalized" by the mantralaya! now- i thought our marriage certificate was already created by a gvt notary, so i was surprised- but anyways.

my question is: have any of you gone through this process and do you know how to go about it?
1) which gvt agency do we approach for this legalization?
2) does the legalization have to take place in the same state the marriage certificate was issued (for example, i am from calcutta, my husband is from chennai, we got married in calcutta, and we now stay in hyd. which state will issue the legalization?)
3) how long does it take?

please help if you can
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Old 30.10.2008, 14:30
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Uh, uh, uh.

That is rather frustrating. It takes at least two weeks (maybe less if you are lucky). For us, it took close to a month, and that's what delayed my wife's visa. For Mumbai, it is there on the swiss consulate website (eda.admin.ch), and I think it is at Mantralaya that this legalisation is done.

Essentially, it involves putting another seal on the marriage certi, by the Ministry of Home Affairs (I think).

One piece of advice: Get started with it immediately!

But don't worry, the rest of the Visa procedure is quite smooth!

We were both from Chennai, so there was no problem. I think you could approach the AP state ministry (or better still, ask a travel agent; I think it is quite important for middle east visas too.. so most travel agents might know).
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Hi Cactina
I know it is frustrating, but that wont help. it is simple if we know the rules. every country has its own visa processing, and swiss is no different. the mistake is normally on our part, of not knowing the correct rules. I have tried to answer your questions.

1) which gvt agency do we approach for this legalization?
There are two levels of legalisation. you can clarify the same before you submit for your spouse visa.
a. it has to from from the home ministy of the state.
b. the second has to be from Ministry of external affaris Delhi.
some say just the state is enough. but I have friends who had to get it done from both state and delhi.
if you don’t want to run around then you can give it to agencies who do this . you can check www.urogulf.com, but for a price.

2) does the legalization have to take place in the same state the marriage certificate was issued (for example, i am from calcutta, my husband is from chennai, we got married in calcutta, and we now stay in hyd. which state will issue the legalization?)
Yes it has to take place in the same state where the marriage has taken place. in your case it has to be Kolkata.

3) how long does it take?
it normally requires 2 to 3 weeks to get it from the state and the same to get it from Delhi. you can count it as a month (if lucky).

PS: I think you may have to appear for the visa in Swiss embassy, delhi as you are from Kolkata. I am not sure, you may have to check on this.

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Old 30.10.2008, 15:36
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

We also got our marriage registered in Kolkata, so I can tell you how to get the certificate legalized.
First, you would need to submit an application along with your marriage certificate to the Home Ministry in Writers building(Kolkata). They will send your documents for verification to Panchayat Bhavan(thats where is the Office of registrar general of birth, death and marriages). The certificate gets "authenticated"(this is the term used) at Panchayat Bhavan and is sent back to the Home Ministry. Once it is authenticated, the Home ministry would just stamp on it, and hand it back to you. You will then need to go to the External Ministry/Ministry of Foreign affairs, and get another stamp on it. This whole process takes about 15 days, or even less, if you could carry the certificates and letters to and back from Panchayat Bhavan, and not rely on postal services.

Hope this helps. All the best!!
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Legalization of marriage certificate is fairly easy, atleast in Mantralaya (Mumbai).

Step 1 -- Take the original certificate to a Notary, who will sign and stamp the _back side_ of the document.

Step 2 -- Visit the Mantralaya (New Building) -- sometime in the late afternoon is the visitor hour where you tell you would like to have the certificate "attested" (otherwise they don't understand what you actually want). Some officer will then stamp your marriage certificate again and that's all¦

In essence, the home ministry certifies that the signature / stamp of the Notary is bonafide and correct. A bit of hassle at the end of it....
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Here is the website of a documentation service I used for getting documents legalised in India. I found them very efficient, I guess you can also ask them to clarify your questions.
http://www.yourmaninindia.com/

Good luck!
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Thanks Maria...........the link you provided was very much helpful......cheers
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Hi all,
I chanced upon this post and though it's somewhat dated I'm hoping one of you sees this.
I used to live in the US - last place of residence was CA. I met my bf who is italian there.
He moved early this year to CH, with his company. He is on a B permit. due to family reasons, I had to move back to India temporarily. I work in a MNC here, and have a senior position.
My bf and I want to get married and me to move to CH. We have visited the Swiss consulate in Mumbai and the Italian one and have a fair idea of the process. However, we would like to marry in CH.
For this I require a birth certificate and that's proving very difficult. Is there another way for us to be together in CH?
Please help. We want to do everything that is regularized and recognize that it's tedious, but looking for some perspective and a silver lining in your experiences

Thanks so much.
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Hi all,
I chanced upon this post and though it's somewhat dated I'm hoping one of you sees this.
I used to live in the US - last place of residence was CA. I met my bf who is italian there.
He moved early this year to CH, with his company. He is on a B permit. due to family reasons, I had to move back to India temporarily. I work in a MNC here, and have a senior position.
My bf and I want to get married and me to move to CH. We have visited the Swiss consulate in Mumbai and the Italian one and have a fair idea of the process. However, we would like to marry in CH.
For this I require a birth certificate and that's proving very difficult. Is there another way for us to be together in CH?
Please help. We want to do everything that is regularized and recognize that it's tedious, but looking for some perspective and a silver lining in your experiences

Thanks so much.
Well I needed a birth certificate too. Was born at delhi and had none either so went around to a lot of places before getting one from Registrar of births & deaths (that time it used be at Tees Hazari Courts) - honestly did cough up money to get it. (as the hospital I was born in also had ceased to exist). I tried proving to the authorties here in Switzerland too about my difficulties in getting one but it went to no avail as a rule is a rule here so I went back to India and procured one and also got it autheticated by our effiecient embassy at Bern here. Just to add I had got married in Finland though but to get my marriage registered here - I had to get a birth certificate.

I hope some other people maybe had a easier experience. All the best to you.
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

I just went through this whole circus recently. The good news is that if your papers are in place, the process is really smooth and quick. I got the visas of my wife & kid approved within 2 weeks.

Steps from the India side: I would suggest you do this before applying for the Familiennachzug in CH.
- Get your marriage certificate certified by the state authorities (where you got married) and by the ministry of external affairs in N.Delhi. I got this done through an agent - set me back around 10k INR. This takes 2-3 weeks.
- Apply for a dependant visa at the Swiss embassy in Bombay/Delhi. Again, i used an agent for this. The application is available online at the embassy website. Once they verify the application, they return the passport and the waiting begins.

In CH: I applied after my wife submitted the application in India. I think it's better this way because as with any bureaucracy, once a process is put on hold, re-starting it is quite painful. Things tend to get misplaced etc.
- You need to apply at your gemeinde. This is then forwarded to the kantonal authorities. Be careful here, the documents required by the kanton may be different from the gemeinde.
I submitted the following docs / kept them prepared just in case
- Passport copies of dependants
- Unattested copy of marriage certificate
- Copy of apartment rental contract
- Salary slips
- Statement from employer that you are employed x% with salary of Y CHF
- My health insurance
- Offer for health insurance of dependants
- Betreibungsauszug (an official doc stating you have no unpaid debts)
- A personal letter stating i have no outstanding loans
- Copy of my bus-abo. For some reason they wanted to know how i commute to work

Got the Ermachtigung document in 2 weeks ....

Good luck !
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Thank you both...

I am working on getting the documents together. Will be applying for a police clearance certificate shortly since it takes about a month to procure. All other docs will get legalized too in the meantime.

If you have any other pointers, please do share.

Once again, thanks a ton!
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Thank you both...

I am working on getting the documents together. Will be applying for a police clearance certificate shortly since it takes about a month to procure. All other docs will get legalized too in the meantime.

If you have any other pointers, please do share.

Once again, thanks a ton!
Hello All,

I have one question regarding police clearance certificate. I already got visa and I will be moving to zurich next month. Is it required to get police clearnce certificate and show it at the time of registration in switzerland. Passport office in India insisted on having letter from Swiss embassy to issue police clearance certificate. I dont have such letter from Swiss embassy. Can any one guide me with following :
1) Should I get police cleareance certificate from India ?
2) How should I get it without letter from swiss embassy.

I really appreciate any help with this. Thanks in advance.
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

@ Gaurang : If you have got visa then Police clearance certificate is not needed. In most cases, Swiss Embassy/Canton asks for Police clearance for issuing the Visa to check criminal record.

For getting the Police Clerance letter, you do not need any letter from Swiss Embassy atleast we were not asked to submit in Thane passport office.

FYI - There is another way to get a PPC - which is getting it directly from your local police station.
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Hi Guys,
I am going to apply for my spouse's visa in CH, is it really required to legalize the marriage certificate. Some say not required, even the swiss website only mentions marriage certificate, does not specify if it has to be legalised.

thanks in advance
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Hi Guys,
I am going to apply for my spouse's visa in CH, is it really required to legalize the marriage certificate. Some say not required, even the swiss website only mentions marriage certificate, does not specify if it has to be legalised.

thanks in advance
Dear Fromsiggenthal,

I am in the same position, intending to apply for my spouse's visa in Geneva, CH. Could you tell me which documents are required? It would be of great help!

Thanks in advance!
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Yes you need to legalise your marriage certificate.
one from the home minister office (mantralaya) and the other from external affairs (Delhi).
Here is a detailed version of my process
Dependent visa, Permit B for spouses wanting to reunite with family in Switzerland
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Hi,
I have applied for my wife's visa here in the Gemeinde. They took all the photocopies of marraige certificate, police clearence certificate etc...I dont understand when is the legalization required. ?

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Yes you need to legalise your marriage certificate.
one from the home minister office (mantralaya) and the other from external affairs (Delhi).
Here is a detailed version of my process
Dependent visa, Permit B for spouses wanting to reunite with family in Switzerland
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

Did you start the process in India or Switzerland?
This is important since I am not sure what happens when you start your application in Switzerland. I have given the link of my process which starts in India.

To help you sort of, Did you marry in India? If yes, your marriage certificate should be in E or translated to G. Then you need to legalise the document since Swiss embassy wants to make sure it is a true copy.

Hope this helps and not adds to your worry.
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Re: INDIA: How to "legalize" marriage certificate for spouse visa?

I have started the process here in Switzerland. Is it required to take all documents to embassy in India personally? I thought when the Swiss sends the confimation to the embassy in India, the visa can be stamped by the help of a travel agent? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Did you start the process in India or Switzerland?
This is important since I am not sure what happens when you start your application in Switzerland. I have given the link of my process which starts in India.

To help you sort of, Did you marry in India? If yes, your marriage certificate should be in E or translated to G. Then you need to legalise the document since Swiss embassy wants to make sure it is a true copy.

Hope this helps and not adds to your worry.
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