Interesting..thanks for the article. So i guess the failed policies came in much after the Vietnamese success stories.

The Vietnamese immigrated into a communist police state, so I guess not too many others really wanted to immigrate into the GDR back then...

I am sure there are many other success stories today as well, the article mentions some Iranian groups, but on the other hand rather worrying developments in the larger cities. The article takes one of the worst examples, Berlin Neukölln: A ghetto of Turkish immigrants where a very high percentage lives by now in the second or third generation exclusively on social insurances. Education is a value carried in families and the lack of education is connected to low jobs or no income and ultimately to higher crime rates. People there fail to see the education issue but rather play the racism card (or claim to be discriminated based on being Muslims). I am not saying that there is no discrimination, but the reality is that you simply need to finish at least an apprenticeship in order to have a job in a city with as many unemployed as Berlin.

I grew up in a small town and the Turkish kids in my class did just as well as the Germans, so it is simply the environment you grew up in: If everybody arounds you lives on other peoples' taxes, you think this is the way it should be. If you on the other hand see that the successful people around you are the ones that went to school longer, you might value education more. the failed policy in my eyes is that the government thought they can simply pay a bit more on extra schooling, immigration courses and language training and then everyone will become a great student. Reality is that the values of your parents, family and neighbours are very very important and will not be changed so easily with a bit of cash. So choosing who you let immigrate is key.

Plenty of jobs here in the south if they stop the daily transborder migration.
Unless those are the jobs the Swiss don't want....

Since I'm on the bubble, and at the start of the 6-8 weeks of waiting for a B permit, I gotta admit that reading these articles are slightly distressing. Also distressing is know knowing that I'm competing for 1 of 2000 permits, but that is life - didn't know that before.

But a question - and I'm not trying to be a jerk here - but is the reduction new information? I was (I believe) told during the interview process that permits were being reduced 50% - and that was a month ago.

Thanks.

NZ has a points system, you have the points gathered from metrics including age, profession, country of origin (race basically..), family status et al. If you get over the threshold then you get in.

The stupid starts once you get into the country, though. For instance Dr's get through the immigration system only to hit internal systems that force them to restudy for years! You then end up with the stupid STUPID situation of a Dr driving a taxi. Of course that taxi drive is welcome to explore clean green NZ's great outdoor lifestyle once they complete their weekend night shift...

CK

No, it is not new, I think I read first about it half a year or so ago, when the plan went through the Parliament. Or the Bundesrat? Anyway, when it was in the newspaper.

Well, this is absolutely crap news for me! A large pharma company has put papers through to get a permit for me and I guess this news means that my chances have even decreased more.....bloody fantastic.

I unfortunately have to agree with CorsebouTheReturn. Personally, it feels like they (the government) would let people come in and live on their resources, rather than let people from outside the EU to come in, who genuinely wants to work and have the experience to do so and make their econemy better. But hey, that's just how I'm feeling at the moment!!!

My partner might have been right.... I originally come from a third world country with problems, and he said that I probably would have a better chance of getting residency in CH if I went back to my country of origin and applied for refugee status!!

ignore the guy he does not even know how to count

Some are having doubts about Canada.

Good website about Canadian immigration. Thanks

Thanks for the link, it was pretty interesting and new to me. However, it shows that Canada only lets in highly skilled immigrants - some of which had high hopes and are disappointed.

This is total crap, my friend.
Those professional beggars, who by the way are gypsies from Eastern Europe (and yes, some of them are from Romania too), don't get anything from the Government, except some help from the NGOs. They come as "tourists" and probably send back to their countries of origin, as soon as the authorities can do that.
The labour market situation is bad enough, so please don't inflame people here with false info.
As a Romanian national I went through the same process as everybody else for having my work permit (L type). I'd say the worst part was not this process itself, but the getting-a-job part.

Don't get me started on that one.. I applied and... didn't get even an interview (lots of time, effort and money to get the application in through a 'consultant'). When I went there as a tourist some friends there said I would of got instantly accepted if I had stripped off all my cloths and floated into the middle of one of that great lakes. When found plead that I was trying to escape persecution from the fish. (well.. they said I should do something else but.. I don't condone racist comments)

At the time the tech bubble had not burst and everyone wanted a piece of me.. Ah, those were the days.

CK

Canada is similar...point system and the stupid starts once you get in. It is changing though. The last 7 years have seen many programs.

Oh dear.

You sound a bit like an SNCF employee:

French rail SNCF sorry for 'racist' alert on Romanians

Yes. And they both sound like someone with little (if any) education.
The SNCF should have alerted also for Romanian doctors, who knows whight they might be up to
http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/Locales/C...trangers.shtml

Hi there! I have a quick question - my company filed for a B permit for me (short term assignment) in later December to move from US to Zurich (I'm a non-EU resident). I have been told that my Labor has been approved and that the federal approval still has to be attained. Does anyone know how long Federal approval is expected to take, given the new rules and the lowered quotas? It has been over 8 weeks since my permit was filed and I still haven't received it So any light that can be shed on this situation will be greatly appreciated!

No doubt selling to the swiss kids, no demand no supply

Does this 50 % reduction affect "married to a Swiss" applications does anyone know?

No, I think if you are married to a swiss and your marriage is seen to be legitimate...and you aren't a 'national security' risk then the permit is a formality...

The quotas specifically apply to Non-EU, Non-Swiss...