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24.02.2010, 15:26
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| | | Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010
The below link says it all: http://global-immigration-news.total...d-50-for-2010/
Many in this forum I guess would be the victim of this. Hope for the best...
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24.02.2010, 15:40
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Fortunately, this only applies to new B-permits and not renewals.... at least for now... | | This user would like to thank cmirsky for this useful post: | | 
24.02.2010, 15:41
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010
Well, I know a few non-EU people whose permits were not renewed even though they are still in their current job.
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24.02.2010, 15:44
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | Well, I know a few non-EU people whose permits were not renewed even though they are still in their current job. | | | | | Interesting.... We shall all continue to monitor this closely...
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24.02.2010, 15:47
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Too little, too late... should have half'ed it two years ago.
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24.02.2010, 16:09
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010
"........Work permit extensions are not subject to the quotas"
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24.02.2010, 16:25
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | Too little, too late... should have half'ed it two years ago. | | | | | Complete rubbish, they should not have quotas at all, but filter better who gets in. A non-EU friend of mine just got her application rejected. High educated, six digit work contract in hand and in a profession that is actually needed here locally. She is definitely not dumping salaries compared to locals, but the company is willing to pay to make her move here due to the high demand and low offer of her profession.
Limiting the influx of foreign specialists will only drive prices for some specialists sky high - who is already in wins. This will in some areas be a competitive disadvantage for Switzerland compared to countries that deal with immigration in a smarter way.
The trick is not to keep people out randomly (or based on the date they filed an application and weather or not there is still place in the quota), but to let the good ones in that support your economy.
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24.02.2010, 16:33
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | Complete rubbish, they should not have quotas at all, but filter better who gets in. A non-EU friend of mine just got her application rejected. High educated, six digit work contract in hand and in a profession that is actually needed here locally. She is definitely not dumping salaries compared to locals, but the company is willing to pay to make her move here due to the high demand and low offer of her profession.
Limiting the influx of foreign specialists will only drive prices for some specialists sky high - who is already in wins. This will in some areas be a competitive disadvantage for Switzerland compared to countries that deal with immigration in a smarter way.
The trick is not to keep people out randomly (or based on the date they filed an application and weather or not there is still place in the quota), but to let the good ones in that support your economy. | | | | | A six figure salary right you mean 10,000.00, is that a month or a year...
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24.02.2010, 16:34
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010
Is it easier to snag a permit if you work for a Swiss company/organization, than say a foreign company operating there? Would that have bearing on chances of getting a B instead of an L for example?
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24.02.2010, 16:39
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | A six figure salary right you mean 10,000.00, is that a month or a year... | | | | | Six digits: 100.000, one more digit than the number you made per year. Alternatively, a number with your five digits per month as I am not talking about the smalles possible number with six digits.
So while I do not know if there is only one overall quota or how the system works, for some it is already impossible to get a permit.
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24.02.2010, 16:41
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | Well, I know a few non-EU people whose permits were not renewed even though they are still in their current job. | | | | | Are you implying that you know a few "non-eu people" who already have a "long term annually renewable b-permit" , couldn't get their permits renewed. thanks for clarifying.
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24.02.2010, 16:44
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | Six digits: 100.000, one more digit than the number you made per year. Alternatively, a number with your five digits per month as I am not talking about the smalles possible number with six digits.
So while I do not know if there is only one overall quota or how the system works, for some it is already impossible to get a permit. | | | | | I find it difficult to believe that the Swiss authorities missed out on the opportunity to tax somebody with a six figure salary...
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24.02.2010, 16:45
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | Are you implying that you know a few "non-eu people" who already have a "long term annually renewable b-permit" , couldn't get their permits renewed. thanks for clarifying. | | | | | They were L as far as I know. All I was saying is that they are being much stricter on renewals too, aside from the topic of the article.
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24.02.2010, 16:49
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | I find it difficult to believe that the Swiss authorities missed out on the opportunity to tax somebody with a six figure salary... | | | | | A quota is a quota. That is the point: It is simply wrong for the economy and frankly plain stupid to measure the overall number of immigrants based on their Nationality rather than qualifying applicants: Are they likely to contribute or a risk to cost the society? Other countries as Australia or Canada are smarter in this area, Germany is far worse.
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24.02.2010, 16:51
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | They were L as far as I know. All I was saying is that they are being much stricter on renewals too, aside from the topic of the article. | | | | | Which renewals are we talking about here. I have an unlimited B permit from the arbeitsamt so no need to renew. I still need to renew my residence permit every year though
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24.02.2010, 16:55
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | Which renewals are we talking about here. I have an unlimited B permit from the arbeitsamt so no need to renew. I still need to renew my residence permit every year though | | | | | Can you please let me know, how one can find if one has an "unlimited B permit". It seems that some people receive a document , but unfortunately i never got one. Don;t wish to ask the HR and had visited arbeitsamt and they told that this information is necessary only for companies and not for individual.
Any other way , I can know. Thanks.
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24.02.2010, 16:57
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | Can you please let me know, how one can find if one has an "unlimited B permit". It seems that some people receive a document , but unfortunately i never got one. Don;t wish to ask the HR and had visited arbeitsamt and they told that this information is necessary only for companies and not for individual.
Any other way , I can know. Thanks. | | | | | As far as i know it is only on the document. Where it says work permit valid from xx.xx.xxxx to yy.yy.yyyy. and normally yy.yy.yyyy is empty for unlimited permit, which is what I have.
Atleast that is what I have been told
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24.02.2010, 17:15
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | A quota is a quota. That is the point: It is simply wrong for the economy and frankly plain stupid to measure the overall number of immigrants based on their Nationality rather than qualifying applicants: Are they likely to contribute or a risk to cost the society? Other countries as Australia or Canada are smarter in this area, Germany is far worse. | | | | | Is Germany really far worse ?
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24.02.2010, 17:36
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | Is Germany really far worse ? | | | | | While I do not agree with many views on this rather right winged article, some measurable facts it states are simply true on immigration in Germany: It should theoretically not be too difficult to attract educated people to immigrate and there are some real success stories of for example Vietnamese that immigrated to communist Eastern Germany in the 80s and their children are by now exceeding German kids in the education system. But thanks to some failed policies the ones that were allowed to come were far too often the ones that did not have any education and were attracted by the social insurances rather than the opportunity to work. In short: the government allowed people to come in who did not manage their life elsewhere.
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24.02.2010, 17:41
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| | | Re: Work Permit Quotas Lowered 50% for 2010 | Quote: | |  | | | Complete rubbish, they should not have quotas at all, but filter better who gets in. A non-EU friend of mine just got her application rejected. High educated, six digit work contract in hand and in a profession that is actually needed here locally. She is definitely not dumping salaries compared to locals, but the company is willing to pay to make her move here due to the high demand and low offer of her profession.
. | | | | | With the amount of tax she would have paid, "they" (idiots from government), should have let her in.
But they prefer to be "humans, nice, friendly, etc..." and let in illegal people from africa, or romanians (cf. news on Migrants selling drugs on Lausanne city center, and beggars on lausanne city center: both are in the good "eyes" of the government and get favors, even being illegal).
At some point they will have to decide either to let anyone in to be fair, or to adopt clever migration control (ie. it's a society with values, pros and cons, not a place for professional beggars or drug dealers).
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