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Which cantons recognize unmarried partnerships for heterosexual couples?

Hallo to everybody!
I really tried to find the answer on the forum, but I was not so lucky..
If you could help with any info, we would be very thankful.
Here comes our situation..
I'm from Romania, my partener is Swiss.We have been living in Berlin and Bucharest before and we decided to move in Switzerland at the end of 2009. As soon as we got our flat here, we registred to the 'Gemainde' (Canton Aargau) and since then we are in contact (by email) with Migrationsamt Kanton Aargau to get a permission for me to be here, legally. They told us that in this canton they dont ''recognise'' the couples as long as they are not married. And we are not. The thing is that we want to do this(the big event) for US, when we feel for, not being under the pressure of an institution. This is why we are now thinking even to move the canton.
On the other hand, they didnt say something like..'you can stay only for 3 months as a turist and you should live after '...What to understand? I'm in the process to learn German, we are paying the Krankenkasse..I mean, we care about my integration here.

The question is - which canton recognises and gives rights for an unmarried the couple, like for a married one? (CONCUBINAT)
Do you have any other suggestion? Did you have a similar situation?

thank you very much in advance!

Adry & Rainer
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Old 11.05.2010, 22:33
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Hallo to everybody!
I really tried to find the answer on the forum, but I was not so lucky..
If you could help with any info, we would be very thankful.
Here comes our situation..
I'm from Romania, my partener is Swiss.We have been living in Berlin and Bucharest before and we decided to move in Switzerland at the end of 2009. As soon as we got our flat here, we registred to the 'Gemainde' (Canton Aargau) and since then we are in contact (by email) with Migrationsamt Kanton Aargau to get a permission for me to be here, legally. They told us that in this canton they dont ''recognise'' the couples as long as they are not married. And we are not. The thing is that we want to do this(the big event) for US, when we feel for, not being under the pressure of an institution. This is why we are now thinking even to move the canton.
On the other hand, they didnt say something like..'you can stay only for 3 months as a turist and you should live after '...What to understand? I'm in the process to learn German, we are paying the Krankenkasse..I mean, we care about my integration here.

The question is - which canton recognises and gives rights for an unmarried the couple, like for a married one? (CONCUBINAT)
Do you have any other suggestion? Did you have a similar situation?

thank you very much in advance!

Adry & Rainer
This is strange? Didn't they tell you that he can sign a form saying he'll support you financially and then you can stay longer? I don't know how long it takes for you guys to decide to get married but for couples who are talking about it, it's usually not too long. Well, even if you're not thinking about getting married in the near future, you could check this possibility. I know it's decided on a case to case basis, but this would mean you can stay longer to sort things out, find out whether you like it etc. I don't know how much time you'd get or if you could look for a job with this "permit". But you'd have more time to think. I guess if a company wanted to hire you (after successful interviews) and do the paperwork, that should be fine. And solve your problem.

I don't know of any canton that recognizes such relationships.
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Old 11.05.2010, 22:52
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Re: pls,if you know-which cantons 'recognise'the CONCUBINAT for different sex partner

There is a PDF but in French in this page which might shed some light. ( Séjour concubin )

A previous thread here suggests it might be difficult.

Another source to read up.
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The question is - which canton recognises and gives rights for an unmarried the couple, like for a married one? (CONCUBINAT)
Do you have any other suggestion? Did you have a similar situation?

thank you very much in advance!

Adry & Rainer
Geneva , Neuchatel and Zurich, but I think you the partnership must be minimum one year old (tree years for same sex couples).

http://www.uklgig.org.uk/europe_resi...tm#SWITZERLAND

Actually I’m not confident about Zurich because as I know it’s OK for same sex couples only, but you better check it.
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Re: Which cantons recognize unmarried partnerships for heterosexual couples?

Thank you very much for answers and suggestions! I really appreciate!
My partner didn't receive any paper to sign it for me. We received just the warning to resolve with the Krankenkasse, and we did it.

We are together since 3 years ago.

about working, about permit..
Romania is in EU (but, as I know, to find a job is not the same like for the others from EU - the company has to prove that no swiss and no other citisen from EU(appart from bulgarians) wanted the job. So, with all my academic degrees ... I have to wait in line.
From here arises the tricky situation..

Nobody has had a similar situation - no recognised unmarried partnership?

good vibes&peace
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Geneva , Neuchatel and Zurich, but I think you the partnership must be minimum one year old (tree years for same sex couples).
Which way the duration of partnership is proved?
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The question is - which canton recognises and gives rights for an unmarried the couple, like for a married one? (CONCUBINAT)
According to federal law, such rights do not exist for unmarried heterosexual couples.
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Do you have any other suggestion?
Have you ever thought of getting married?

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Have you ever thought of getting married?

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Now why go and spoil a relationship with marriage ??
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According to federal law, such rights do not exist for unmarried heterosexual couples.Have you ever thought of getting married?

Martin

yes! We have thought about, but for OUR LOVE, not for papers.
Not the papers keep a couple together.
It's so frustrating.. I'm an EU citizen(but a Romanian one)..Rainer is a Swiss citizen..both of us having academic degrees.
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Re: Which cantons recognize unmarried partnerships for heterosexual couples?

In some cases in Switzerland there are special rights given to couples living together but usually that status is only granted when the couple has been together for 7 years (sometimes 5). So, even if there were a possibility, you haven't been together long enough to qualify.

It is true that as a Romanian there are still some restrictions in force until the end of May 2011 (although they can be extended). Nevertheless, you still have the right to look for work. You also have to right to stay and receive an "Aufenthaltsbewilligung" if you can prove that you are financial secure and won't become a burden to the state and have health insurance.

Here is a link: http://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home/...rumaenien.html. There is also information on the site about getting a temporary permit in order to look for work.
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Re: pls,if you know-which cantons 'recognise'the CONCUBINAT for different sex partner

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Which way the duration of partnership is proved?
Of course from registration date. But it can be tricky. Portugal’s União de facto is unregistered partnership, but recognized in Switzerland. It’s done by court over there with two witnesses, same as when partner trying to apply for Portuguese citizenship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union_in_Portugal

But, again ‘The cantonal supervisory authority will decide whether the partnership can be recognized.’ So, two cantons only.



I believe this is a State institution.

Documents required

In order to process a work and residence permit application, the HR Officer will need copies of the following documents for yourself and any other members of your family that will relocate with you:
• Passport
• Birth certificate
• Marriage certificate or certificate for registered partnership (where applicable)
• For unmarried partners proof of continuous cohabitation for 6 year period.
http://www.cscs.ch/249.0.html
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In some cases in Switzerland there are special rights given to couples living together but usually that status is only granted when the couple has been together for 7 years (sometimes 5).
What would be an example for such a special right?

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Thank you very much for answers and suggestions! I really appreciate!
My partner didn't receive any paper to sign it for me. We received just the warning to resolve with the Krankenkasse, and we did it.

We are together since 3 years ago.

about working, about permit..
Romania is in EU (but, as I know, to find a job is not the same like for the others from EU - the company has to prove that no swiss and no other citisen from EU(appart from bulgarians) wanted the job. So, with all my academic degrees ... I have to wait in line.
From here arises the tricky situation..

Nobody has had a similar situation - no recognised unmarried partnership?

good vibes&peace
Adry
Hey, your situation is not that unique. We were in this very same situation up till when my fiance asked me to marry him. Well, we're getting married for very different reasons and don't really care about staying in CH (would prefer, but whatever...). I was initially pissed off at the fact that Hungarians are considered non-EU till April 2011. I thought it was so silly that with my degree etc. I have to queue up for jobs just because of my nationality. But there it is and there's nothing to do about it but to be the best so that they'll hire me.
Normally concubinat is not recognized in Switzerland. There are loopholes and cases that are not directly mentioned by the law, so one can always sign the papers about financial responsibility (it's not something you receive, you have to go and ask for it), or plead just causes, or... There are possibilities, of course. But as such, it's not recognized.

On the other hand, if you are thinking about marriage... well, I'd go with that and apply for an extension of your tourist status till you decide what to do. We didn't want to get married either, and would have never done it "for the papers". But living in a strange country, far from our relatives (who had kept asking when we're getting married), dealing with everyday problems and fighting our way through Swiss bureaucracy somehow showed us that we're best together etc. etc. etc. So finally we're there. It can happen to anyone
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Re: Which cantons recognize unmarried partnerships for heterosexual couples?

I know it's late in this thread, but for future reference, My boyfriend and I are not married and we live in Bern. But they may have just approved us because we were expecting our daughter. Good luck.
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I know it's late in this thread, but for future reference, My boyfriend and I are not married and we live in Bern. But they may have just approved us because we were expecting our daughter. Good luck.
It may also very much depend on what country you're from...

I don't understand why people are so secret about their origins unless someone has something to hide
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Re: Which cantons recognize unmarried partnerships for heterosexual couples?

Hallo everyone;

Me and my boyfriend are having the same problem. He is swiss and i am turkish. we are together since 3 years and i have been doing my master study since 1 year in germany and i visit him everyweekend . From march 2016 we want to live together and i have been looking for some internship in zurich or in st.gallen. Since i dont have a work permit for switzerland, the companies are not willing to hire me . We dont want to marry just for a visa.We want to do it when we feel ready. Is there any chance to get a visa as a unmarried couple ?

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See answers above regarding the concubine permit. He would have to agree to be financially responsible for you for 5 years and I don't know if you'd be allowed to work with that permit or not.

Here's Vaud canton's info on the permit.

http://www.vd.ch/themes/vie-privee/p...s-du-concubin/
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Is that possible in canton St.galen ?
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It's possible in all cantons. Ask at the St Gallen migration office for their requirements.
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See answers above regarding the concubine permit. He would have to agree to be financially responsible for you for 5 years and I don't know if you'd be allowed to work with that permit or not.

Thank you, Medea Fleecestealer. Sometimes, people who "don't want to get married for the permit/visa" overlook the fact that being financially responsible for someone else for 5 whole years can, in many cases, be a much more serious commitment (or burden) than a marriage. Especially when comparing the outworkings should anything ever go wrong, in either situation.


Even if the relationship works well, it's worth comparing what would happen if in the "suppporting for 5 years" arrangement, as opposed to a marriage. And how various scenarios would work out, financially, if either party (the supporter or the supported person) became unemployed, became long-term ill or had a serious accident which caused additional costs, had a baby, took out credit/loans, went back to university or left the country.
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