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Old 20.05.2010, 14:57
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Moving to Switzerland with German work permit

Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum. I have searched for some time but couldn't get a specific answer to my query.

I am a non-EU citizen living and working in Germany with an unrestricted work permit for over 4 years now. I am a software developer by profession. I speak English and German. My husband is a project manager in an international IT firm and is being asked to move from Germany to Zürich. We also have two small children who visit a state-owned daycare here.

We primarily want to understand how this move can affect the following:

1) Our work permits: As of now, we both hold unrestricted/non-company bound work permits. I assume that my husband's company will get his work permit done.
a) What kind of permit could he get? What kind of permit will I get? Does having a work permit in Germany help in any way?

b) If I get a job at some company and have a company-bound visa initially, how long does it take to get an unrestricted permit that allows me change of jobs?

2) Daycare options for our kids: On having a first look, daycares in CH look unbelievably high-priced. Here, we pay close to EUR 300 per month for 2 small children at the state-Krippe. We did have to wait for a year to get the place initially.

What is the situation in CH(Zürich particularly)? How long is the wait and what percentage of your earnings go away to send two kids to a kindergarten/krippe(private/state-owned)?

Curiously waiting for some information here,
Thanks!
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Old 20.05.2010, 15:15
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1) Our work permits: As of now, we both hold unrestricted/non-company bound work permits. I assume that my husband's company will get his work permit done.
a) What kind of permit could he get?
Depends on his contract terms and whether the relocation is temporary or permanent.

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What kind of permit will I get?
Depends on his.

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Does having a work permit in Germany help in any way?
No.

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b) If I get a job at some company and have a company-bound visa initially, how long does it take to get an unrestricted permit that allows me change of jobs?
It is not time related.

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2) Daycare options for our kids: On having a first look, daycares in CH look unbelievably high-priced. Here, we pay close to EUR 300 per month for 2 small children at the state-Krippe. We did have to wait for a year to get the place initially.

What is the situation in CH(Zürich particularly)? How long is the wait and what percentage of your earnings go away to send two kids to a kindergarten/krippe(private/state-owned)?

Curiously waiting for some information here,
Thanks!
Can't help you here except to say it's Switzerland ... it's expensive .
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Old 20.05.2010, 15:30
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Does having a work permit in Germany help in any way?
Only a if you are a holder of Niederlassungserlaubnis and can proof a residency in a 50 km border zone for minimum half-year prior your application. Then you qualify for cross-border commuter G permit.
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home/...willigung.html
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Old 20.05.2010, 15:56
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Only a if you are a holder of Niederlassungserlaubnis and can proof a residency in a 50 km border zone for minimum half-year prior your application. Then you qualify for cross-border commuter G permit.
http://www.bfm.admin.ch/bfm/en/home/...willigung.html
Last time I looked Zurich wasn't in the Swiss border zone.
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Last time I looked Zurich wasn't in the Swiss border zone.
According to this link Zürich is.
http://www.bodensee-wirtschaft.org/P...halt_4.php#4_3
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Old 20.05.2010, 16:53
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Crikey, that doesn't seem right .

I wonder why Horgen (Gemeinden Adliswil, Hirzel, Horgen, Hütten, Kilchberg, Langnau am Albis, Oberrieden, Richterswil, Rüschlikon, Schönenberg, Thalwil, Wädenswil) and Affoltern (Gemeinden Aeugst am Albis, Affoltern am Albis, Bonstetten, Hausen am Albis, Hedingen, Kappel am Albis, Knonau, Maschwanden, Mettmenstetten, Obfelden, Ottenbach, Rifferswil, Stallikon, Wettswil am Albis) are excluded.
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Old 20.05.2010, 17:35
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Re: Moving to Switzerland with German work permit

You don't specify what area of Germany. Would it be feasible for your husband to commute? Living in Zurich will be much more expensive with kids and you may have difficulties to get a permit to actually work.
Your permit to work in Germany wouldn't factor in at all I don't think.
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...I wonder why Horgen ... and Affoltern ... are excluded.
My guess is that most of their area is beyond the 50km limit, whereas the greater part of Bezirk Zürich is north of that line.

Edit: (But then it would seem Meilen and Hinwil should also be excluded by the same criteria. So...?)

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Re: Moving to Switzerland with German work permit

Well, we are in Mannheim at the moment, and my office is in Karlsruhe. I don't think moving to Karlsruhe would solve the problem. It is still a 3 hour journey each side.

Interestingly, my husband will qualify for the Neiderlassungserlaubnis in September and I will get mine in December. We could procrastinate things till that time. However, this 50 Km residence condition may be tricky to achieve.

Well, thanks Swissbob, Mabern and everyone else for your feedback. We'll have to reconsider if this move is a good idea at all.
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Old 20.05.2010, 19:10
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Well, we are in Mannheim at the moment, and my office is in Karlsruhe. I don't think moving to Karlsruhe would solve the problem. It is still a 3 hour journey each side.

Interestingly, my husband will qualify for the Neiderlassungserlaubnis in September and I will get mine in December. We could procrastinate things till that time. However, this 50 Km residence condition may be tricky to achieve.

Well, thanks Swissbob, Mabern and everyone else for your feedback. We'll have to reconsider if this move is a good idea at all.
I think your only realistic options are to either move to Zürich or stay where you are. Zürich is not within commuting distance of anywhere in Germany.
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Old 20.05.2010, 21:04
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Crikey, that doesn't seem right .
Yes, very confusing description. They say probably 50 km requirement will be lifted in May next year because it’s also transitional. EU permanent residents must have a same rights as citizens.

Actually family members of EUcitizens if settled in other EUcountry with family do have right to work in that country, but not in Switzerland at this moment unless they are registered in border zone and EU permanent resident.
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Working in Switzerland while studying in Germany

Hello everyone.

I am a student from Macedonian (Non EU country), currently doing my master thesis in Germany (my 4 semester now). I have some friends who have offered me to go and work in Switzerland but I am not sure if I am allowed to work. I have a work permit to work as a student in Germany but I do not know if I can work in Switzerland with this student work permit. Can anyone help me?

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Hello everyone.

I am a student from Macedonian (Non EU country), currently doing my master thesis in Germany (my 4 semester now). I have some friends who have offered me to go and work in Switzerland but I am not sure if I am allowed to work. I have a work permit to work as a student in Germany but I do not know if I can work in Switzerland with this student work permit. Can anyone help me?

Thanks in advance
Unfortunately, your permit in Germany is not applicable in Switzerland. Your future employer in Switzerland will have to go through the hassle to apply the necessary work permit for you.
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