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02.01.2013, 08:50
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OK - strange question here, but with the new recycling laws in Lausanne thought I would ask. We have 2 dogs and a cat, and combined they produce quite a bit of "waste" - we have a small garden here (unlike where we came from where we had an acre and lots of woods to dispose of the poo) and so will be picking up the poo in bags - the question is, how do I dispose in the garbage? Looking at the nice little booklet they sent me with what should go where, i cannot find a listing for pet waste :-) I am assuming I should follow the directions for daipers? Any comments welcome.
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02.01.2013, 09:13
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I can't really help, except to say there is a phone number 0800 804 806 where they maybe could help you. I see in the index they tell you how to dispose of dead animals, but not animal waste.
I'm being driven mad by the new regulations with the water bottles being PET which need to be taken back to the store, but the milk bottles being PE need to be put in the white garbage sacks, and then there are the clear plastic trays from fruit etc. which don't seem to be marked with anything.
At least when I'm completely gaga, and back in nappies again, I will get an extra white-bag allowance. Whooppee!!
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02.01.2013, 10:45
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Animal 'waste' will have to go in the normal waste bag. You'll have to phone the help line to find out where to put cat litter. Here we pay by weight and wet cat litter weighs very heavy. I split it among my 8 compost bins - which is of course not possible for most people. In Lausanne you pay for the bags, so clumped litter is not a problem - but here we pay by weight - so someone with several cats will have a lot of weight added to their refuse bill!!
Plastic trays and plastics, even PET, which have contained detergents or shampoos, etc- cannot be recycled with plastics here as they contaminate the batch. They either have to go into the bin or be taken to a separate plastic recycling facility (I collect them and go there once a month approx- again I realise many do not have the space to store).
Many here are going back to washing powder sold in card boxes for that reason. And also the 'real' cotton washable nappies- the modern shaped once used with a liner to catch solids- for that reason. in some parts of Switzerland they are now starting 'Windelservices' to provide, collect, wash and deliver cotton nappies.
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02.01.2013, 10:53
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thanks for the tips - so i am assuming i can put the clumped litter into the white garbage bag as it is "waste" ? Good info on the shampoo and detergent , sounds like cardboard is the way to go
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02.01.2013, 11:30
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| | | Re: Recycling questions | Quote: | |  | | | Animal 'waste' will have to go in the normal waste bag. You'll have to phone the help line to find out where to put cat litter. Here we pay by weight and wet cat litter weighs very heavy. I split it among my 8 compost bins - which is of course not possible for most people. In Lausanne you pay for the bags, so clumped litter is not a problem - but here we pay by weight - so someone with several cats will have a lot of weight added to their refuse bill!!
Plastic trays and plastics, even PET, which have contained detergents or shampoos, etc- cannot be recycled with plastics here as they contaminate the batch. They either have to go into the bin or be taken to a separate plastic recycling facility (I collect them and go there once a month approx- again I realise many do not have the space to store).
Many here are going back to washing powder sold in card boxes for that reason. And also the 'real' cotton washable nappies- the modern shaped once used with a liner to catch solids- for that reason. in some parts of Switzerland they are now starting 'Windelservices' to provide, collect, wash and deliver cotton nappies. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | thanks for the tips - so i am assuming i can put the clumped litter into the white garbage bag as it is "waste" ? Good info on the shampoo and detergent , sounds like cardboard is the way to go
cheers
dom | | | | | I am sorry, but Odile did not write that: she implicated you have to put the litter and poo into the household refuse bags and pay for it.
In most recycling centers, washing powder cardboard boxes are explicitly forbidden!
I think you need to phone the hotline.
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02.01.2013, 11:56
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| | | Re: Recycling questions | Quote: | |  | | | I am sorry, but Odile did not write that: she implicated you have to put the litter and poo into the household refuse bags and pay for it.
In most recycling centers, washing powder cardboard boxes are explicitly forbidden!
I think you need to phone the hotline. | | | | | But I think that the white garbage bags in Lausanne are the new ones that you have to pay for. The colour if the official bags varies from canton to canton. They are grey here.
Washing powder boxes are fine at our recycling centre but that also varies from canton to canton too.
I think the best advice for the OP would be for him to contact his recycling centre if he needs specific info. With the exception of Ceppych none of the posters who have replied so far actually live in the same canton as the OP so any information they give may not be relevant in his situation.
We used to flush 'solid' cat poo down the toilet and just put the clumps of litter in the household waste.
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02.01.2013, 12:27
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You could be right. But when I lived in Avenches VD, the free white bags were for disposable nappies from babies and incontinent adults.
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02.01.2013, 12:39
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| | | Re: Recycling questions | Quote: | |  | | | You could be right. But when I lived in Avenches VD, the free white bags were for disposable nappies from babies and incontinent adults. | | | | | With the new recycling rules introduced in Vaud from January 1st 2013 I suspect that things have changed a bit now.
This is only my assumption mind you as I have no direct experience. I have never actually heard of free bags exclusively for nappies and incontinence pads before.
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02.01.2013, 12:50
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Yes. The paid bags here are white with green writing.
Dog poo I but in the regular trash or down the loo. But I have a small dog who makes poos smaller than most cats. | 
02.01.2013, 12:59
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Dog poo (& I assume cat poo) you put into those dinky little free plastic sacks you find attached to waste bins. When you have a full sack, or partly full, you put in any waste bin - I mean the bins you find in random sites where you live.
I enclose a photo of a typical bin.
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02.01.2013, 13:10
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I like how in some jurisdictions, pet waste is recyclable... Boggles the mind just how much can be recycled.
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02.01.2013, 13:34
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| | | Re: Recycling questions [pet waste] | Quote: | |  | | | Dog poo (& I assume cat poo) you put into those dinky little free plastic sacks you find attached to waste bins. When you have a full sack, or partly full, you put in any waste bin - I mean the bins you find in random sites where you live.
I enclose a photo of a typical bin. | | | | |
That would mean you keep it around and then take it into town with you?? Ew. Just put it in with the regular house hold waste.
But yes, if you are walking around you can put the dog poo that you pick up with those poo bags and in a regular trash cans around town. IIRC, the cost of those baggies are paid for by dog registration fees.
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02.01.2013, 13:50
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| | | Re: Recycling questions [pet waste] | Quote: | |  | | | Dog poo (& I assume cat poo) you put into those dinky little free plastic sacks you find attached to waste bins. When you have a full sack, or partly full, you put in any waste bin - I mean the bins you find in random sites where you live.
I enclose a photo of a typical bin. | | | | | Why would I want to keep the poo and then take it with me to one of these bins. It's much easier to just put it in the normal trash or down the toilet.
We don't have a issue with cat litter any more as our cat goes outside but when we did we used to put the litter on the compost (minus the poo of course). AFAIK you can't just put any old cat litter on the compost only the ones labelled as compostable.
ETA. Minimia already said about the poo bags.
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02.01.2013, 20:10
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Yes, here in Lausanne each new-born baby gets 80 free 35 litre bags. Lucky little devils.
I would imagine that, with each 35 litre bag costing Fr.2 for everyone else, there will now be a staggering increase in the new-born population | 
02.01.2013, 20:18
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| | | Re: Recycling questions [pet waste] | Quote: | |  | | | Why would I want to keep the poo and then take it with me to one of these bins. It's much easier to just put it in the normal trash or down the toilet.
We don't have a issue with cat litter any more as our cat goes outside but when we did we used to put the litter on the compost (minus the poo of course). AFAIK you can't just put any old cat litter on the compost only the ones labelled as compostable.
ETA. Minimia already said about the poo bags. | | | | | & how exactly does this resume of your personal life style help the OP??
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02.01.2013, 20:21
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Not in Neuchatel - no free bags nor free refuse weight allowance in the areas like ours which have a 'pay by weight' system. Hence the recent popularity for washable nappies or nappy services.
Refuse in Switzerland is incinerated - so dog ad cat poos do not create any kind of pollution factor.
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02.01.2013, 20:53
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| | | Re: Recycling questions [pet waste] | Quote: | |  | | | & how exactly does this resume of your personal life style help the OP?? | | | | | Don't really see how the disposal of cat poo can amount to a resume of my personal life. It was a direct reference to the posts relating to composting and therefore recycling cat litter which could be very helpful to the OP. Seems much more relevant than suggesting the OP collects the poo in little bags and takes it to a bin in the neighbourhood IMO. | Quote: | |  | | | Not in Neuchatel - no free bags nor free refuse weight allowance in the areas like ours which have a 'pay by weight' system. Hence the recent popularity for washable nappies or nappy services.
Refuse in Switzerland is incinerated - so dog ad cat poos do not create any kind of pollution factor. | | | | | Actually for the majority of us in Neuchatel who have to buy the refuse bags there are free bags issued to families with young children. One roll of 35 litre sacks per year and per child (up to a certain age). The pay by weight system that you have is rather exceptional.
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02.01.2013, 21:04
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| | | Re: Recycling questions [pet waste] | Quote: | |  | | | Don't really see how the disposal of cat poo can amount to a resume of my personal life. It was a direct reference to the posts relating to composting and therefore recycling cat litter which could be very helpful to the OP. Seems much more relevant than suggesting the OP collects the poo in little bags and takes it to a bin in the neighbourhood IMO. | | | | | You wrote "Seems much more relevant than suggesting the OP collects the poo in little bags and takes it to a bin in the neighbourhood IMO ." | Quote: | |  | | | OK - strange question here, but with the new recycling laws in Lausanne thought I would ask. We have 2 dogs and a cat, and combined they produce quite a bit of "waste" - we have a small garden here (unlike where we came from where we had an acre and lots of woods to dispose of the poo) and so will be picking up the poo in bags - the question is, how do I dispose in the garbage? Looking at the nice little booklet they sent me with what should go where, i cannot find a listing for pet waste :-) I am assuming I should follow the directions for daipers? Any comments welcome. | | | | | The OP wrote "so will be picking up the poo in bags - the question is, how do I dispose in the garbage"
It seems the OP is planning to collect the poo in bags & was asking where to dispose of the bags.
So there is a, no doubt remote, possibility that advising the OP where to dispose of these bags could be relevant to his question - which was in case you missed it "where to dispose of the bags" ?
I do not see anywhere that the OP expressed an interest in composting but maybe you could redirect his/her interests?
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02.01.2013, 21:08
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| | | Re: Recycling questions [pet waste] | Quote: | |  | | | OK - strange question here, but with the new recycling laws in Lausanne thought I would ask. We have 2 dogs and a cat, and combined they produce quite a bit of "waste" - we have a small garden here (unlike where we came from where we had an acre and lots of woods to dispose of the poo) and so will be picking up the poo in bags - the question is, how do I dispose in the garbage? Looking at the nice little booklet they sent me with what should go where, i cannot find a listing for pet waste :-) I am assuming I should follow the directions for daipers? Any comments welcome. | | | | | Hello OP,
Many posters have already answered (put into the rubbish bag for incineration i.e. the new paid-for white bags with green writing), but just thought I would give you this link for future reference: http://www1.lausanne.ch/ville-offici...re-du-tri.html
It is the A-Z of what to do in Lausanne with all your rubbish, and includes telling you what to do with your 'litiere' which means 'litter'.
I love the fact that it tells you to throw your leftovers (restes de repas) out to be incinerated! | | The following 2 users would like to thank lemondrizzle for this useful post: | | 
02.01.2013, 21:13
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| | | Re: Recycling questions [pet waste] | Quote: | |  | | | You wrote "Seems much more relevant than suggesting the OP collects the poo in little bags and takes it to a bin in the neighbourhood IMO."
The OP wrote "so will be picking up the poo in bags - the question is, how do I dispose in the garbage"
It seems the OP is planning to collect the poo in bags & was asking where to dispose of the bags.
So there is a, no doubt remote, possibility that advising the OP where to dispose of these bags could be relevant to his question - which was in case you missed it "where to dispose of the bags" ?
I do not see anywhere that the OP expressed an interest in composting but maybe you could redirect his/her interests? | | | | | Did you actually read the whole thread or just the original post? If you did you will notice the reference to composting and disposal of cat litter which is relevant since the OP has a cat. You would also have read that several posters before you had advised the OP to put the poo bags in his household trash or poo down the toilet. Based on these responses it would seem more than a little bit ridiculous to suggest that the OP takes his bags of poo to a bin in the neighbourhood when he could save himself the bother and toss them in his household trash unless of course he was out walking the dogs at the time in which case it would be a logical thing to do. I would imagine that he would be extremely unlikely to be out walking his cat though so the disposal of the cat litter would still be necessary.
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