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Old 25.01.2013, 16:51
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Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

So we were ready for our big move from US to Zurich. Everything was ready for our Labrador retriever as well. We went to the vet yesterdat to get the health certificate which needs to be filled maximum 10 days before the flight (we have a week left)

Then they scanned his microchip. Voila! Can not be read. Again and again and again.. Nothing. After the X-Ray, they found out that the microchip is broken!.. and it may be necessary him to have a surgery to remove it. Our vet called the microchip service, they agreed that no surgery needed. OK great.

But now, he needs to microchipped again; and then as a rule, he has to get another Rabies vaccination. The problem is, to enter Switzerland, he needs to get vaccinated at least 3 weeks before and we have 1 week left to our flight.

I can't believe this has happened. everything was going on so smooth and here is the last minute shock. I am so upset and crying since yesterday.

Our vet is very nice, she tried every possibility, calles the Swiss Embassy, but they said no.. He needs another Rabies after the new microchip..

We will get him microchipped again and get vaccinated today.. No other choice.. Our vet wants to take care of him at her home for 3 weeks, and then transport him to us. I have no idea what to do, what to say.

You guys please say something
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Old 25.01.2013, 16:57
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

Look at it this way. By the time your pet gets here you will have settled in and will have discovered the best places to take him for a walk. It will be fine
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Old 25.01.2013, 17:14
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Sorry - but I don't see the issue, can't you have your vet backdate the certificate? If he/she knows your dogs health history they shouldn't have an issue in doing this.....unless they want to fleece you for 3 weeks board and 2k to cargo your dog over....

When we came from Canada no one even looked at our paperwork. Now I understand you can't rely on this, but no one is going to check when the microchip was activated or anything like that. If you never said anything how would anyone even know??
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Old 25.01.2013, 17:14
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

So sorry to hear this. When we brought our Labradiva from San Francisco, we flew direct to Frankfurt and then drove the last bit to Zurich to avoid a plane change. When we landed, no one even checked our girl or her papers.

Not something you could really count on, though.

Do you know what the rationale is for needing a NEW rabies jab after re-microchipping? We actually had a difficult time with our US chips and got a new one at our first visit to the vet in Zurich.

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Old 25.01.2013, 17:15
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

At least you're still able to come. There are loads of much worse possibilities that could have happened.
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

I don't want to get you into any trouble, but isn't it wrong to have another rabies shot if the last one is still "valid"? When i brought my dog here the same rules should have applied to us also, but the vet back home refused to give him another anti rabies shot after microchipping exactly for this reason: one vaccine per year. the vet here didn't say anything about that when i registered him in bern. all went smoothly.
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

Can you not have a close friend care for your dog? Then, when the dog is able to fly, the friend can ship the dog to Switzerland?

This is what my ex and I did. We moved here 1st. Then, when we were settled (with a place to live), the friends shipped our pets to Switzerland. All we did was meet them at the airport. All was good.

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Old 25.01.2013, 18:19
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I don't want to get you into any trouble, but isn't it wrong to have another rabies shot if the last one is still "valid"? When i brought my dog here the same rules should have applied to us also, but the vet back home refused to give him another anti rabies shot after microchipping exactly for this reason: one vaccine per year. the vet here didn't say anything about that when i registered him in bern. all went smoothly.
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This is what I was thinking.

A rabies shot because it's protocol with a chip conflicts with the necessity of needing it for genuine vaccination.

I am surprised the vet hasn't used their loaf and just fiddled it, knowing full well the dog doesnt have rabies and is vaccinated. Although, I guess they have to cover themselves in case it somehow manages to acquire it on the plane
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Old 25.01.2013, 18:20
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

I'm so sorry. How frustrating.

That's nice that your vet has offered to take care of the dog and send him here, though. Just try to keep in mind that, in time, all will be well and you'll all be together here soon! And at least your dog is healthy!

Curiously, did the vet say why or how the microchip was broken?
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Old 25.01.2013, 18:23
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

I feel bad for your situation!

However, like many here, I would encourage you to just bring the dog with you with the paperwork "fixed" as best as possible. When we brought our cat into Zurich (carry on, two weeks ago) we had to actively seek out someone to even look at our paperwork and even then, he didn't care what it said as long as the chip scan number matched what was on the paperwork.

Best of luck! At least you have someone to leave your dog with if you decide to wait. We had no one to leave our cat with when we left
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Old 25.01.2013, 18:28
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Look at it this way. By the time your pet gets here you will have settled in and will have discovered the best places to take him for a walk. It will be fine

How upsetting and frustrating. However it could be much worse. We met with a family a few years ago, who had traveled from Poland to go back to the UK where they lived - having finally taken their dachshund with them (the mother had been looking after it for a couple of years). When they went to the vet in Calais for the pre-crossing check - she couldn't read the microchip, as it was not compatible with French machines. She explained to them she could not cheat as her vet licence was at stake- and the family was given 2 choices: go back to Poland to get the chip changed- or wait in a hotel for a few days until the Polish vet can send his machine over to check the chip before changing it to a new one.

The family was in tears! We offered to pay for a new chip, in case they couldn't afford it (out of earshot) but the vet said 'no can do'. We never knew what they did in the end - leave it by the roadside in Calais, or try to smuggle him in,, and if caught ????? I still often think of that poor little dog, and the family. At least you know in advance and organise a safe alternative. Bonne chance. Tell us how you get on, please.

Oh, and welcome to Switzerland.
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Old 25.01.2013, 18:32
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

I am trying to see the good side, he don't need a surgery. He could be sick, he could have any other problems.. So I am very glad about this.

They need another rabies after microchipping to avoid contamination, I believe. Maybe I should read less about all the procedures, I started to take everything more serious and frightening than they actually are.

Our vet said she really thought about changing the info on the paperwork and fill them as they needed to, but then she said "I could not do that, this is my career and my life" as you can guess.

So the thing is, as you all know, on the paperwork the date of the microchipping and the rabies is written, so what if they see that 3 weeks did not pass after the Rabies? Should I take that risk? Then why the Swiss Embassy said a big NO before that 3 weeks? Because this is a rule, right? Embassy can't say "That's OK, take him with you.." We have to obey, this is CH.. Even though our ver tried to explain to the embassy everything. She called them 2 times, said "This dog is healthy, the paperwork is in front of me, everything great, has rabieds for 2 years, I can show you the xray of the broken chip, I can write you a letter.." They had said No, like a tape, she said.

I am very very confused right now. They can take care of him, I know, all the ladies are very nice there and our dog will stay in our vet's house, with her mom during the day.

On the other side, I don't want to be away from him, I want to take that risk and bring him.

About the broken microchip, she said it is awfully hard, happens 1 in 10.000 people, maybe twice a year. It can be because of playing rough or falling maybe. I have NEVER seen him playing or running that rough, he is very mellow. He just runs in his sleep But I left him in a camp for 3 days, maybe it happened there.

What if they don't let him in? Are we going to send him back? Or quarantine?

(sigh)

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Our vet said she really thought about changing the info on the paperwork and fill them as they needed to, but then she said "I could not do that, this is my career and my life" as you can guess.
On the other side, I don't want to be away from him, I want to take that risk and bring him.

What if they don't let him in? Are we going to send him back? Or quarantine?
(sigh)
OF course she said that, and quite rightly too. I am surprised at the number of people who are suggesting that she alter the paper work.

And of course you can be apart for your dog for three weeks. After the new chip and the immunisation, why would she not be let into the country? You are lucky to have a vet who is kind enough to offer to look after the dog for those three weeks - someone who is knowledgable and likes animals. No problem .
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

Plan B: Do you both have to be in Switzerland by X date to start work? If not, then the nonworking partner could always stay back and travel with the dog after the 3 weeks.
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Old 25.01.2013, 19:24
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OF course she said that, and quite rightly too. I am surprised at the number of people who are suggesting that she alter the paper work.

And of course you can be apart for your dog for three weeks. After the new chip and the immunisation, why would she not be let into the country? You are lucky to have a vet who is kind enough to offer to look after the dog for those three weeks - someone who is knowledgable and likes animals. No problem .

Sure, that's true. They will even take care of everything which needs to be done, like carrying him to the airport, do the paperwork, etc. She is so nice.
I was so surprised when I heard that she had tought something like that, about filling the paperwork.
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

I still do not understand this "rule" that would require a 2nd rabies shot. Vaccinations are not always safe to begin with, and 2 rabies shots in such a short period... I would not do it.

So I am confused, what could possibly negate the viability of the original vaccination... just the fact that the chip failed or broke? Seems completely illogical. But maybe I am missing something.

I am so sorry about your situation, as it seems to be more of a red tape issue than a health/safety issue.

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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

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My dogs were never checked, all the paperwork was done correctly with the date filled on the dates that it needed to be done. Was no issue for the vet to do it and all 3 I have dealt back dated the shots to where they needed to be done. Wasnt an issue for them at all so it happens all the time.
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noone ever checks the dog with the scanner (or anything for that matter) , they might have a look at his passport and the dates of the shots should be in there also and be correct and up to date.
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If you cannot delay your flight I would simply take him with. get the new chip first and change the number on the passport with a letter from the vet.

In all honesty I'd risk it
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If you cannot delay your flight I would simply take him with. get the new chip first and change the number on the passport with a letter from the vet.

In all honesty I'd risk it
"Risk" being the key word here. And what happens if the risk doesn't work out? What if this is one of the random cases where the check is done? Then waht happens? Are the consequences actually worth the risk? I doubt it? ( either monetory, or in relation to what then happens to the pooch.)
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Re: Last Minute Surprise.. Very Upset :(

Please don't worry. It sounds as if you have a wonderful vet there to look after your dog until he can join you here. Three weeks will fly by as you'll be busy getting everything unpacked and put in its new place, shopping, learning your way around, dealing with a new language, new rules, etc. By the time your dog meets up with you again, you'll be more settled and able to give him the attention he deserves without the stress of sorting other things out at the same time. When he arrives you'll have had a chance to suss out the neighbourhood for walking routes and you'll also have found out what your canton/commune rules are for dog owners.

Our cat travelled over a week after we did when we moved and we were barely ready for her arrival. She enjoyed many happy years in her new Swiss home and I'm sure your dog will too.
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Please don't worry. It sounds as if you have a wonderful vet there to look after your dog until he can join you here. Three weeks will fly by as you'll be busy getting everything unpacked and put in its new place, shopping, learning your way around, dealing with a new language, new rules, etc. By the time your dog meets up with you again, you'll be more settled and able to give him the attention he deserves without the stress of sorting other things out at the same time. When he arrives you'll have had a chance to suss out the neighbourhood for walking routes and you'll also have found out what your canton/commune rules are for dog owners.

Our cat travelled over a week after we did when we moved and we were barely ready for her arrival. She enjoyed many happy years in her new Swiss home and I'm sure your dog will too.
She is nice, right? because she thinks it is her fault. I don't believe so. Maybe. She thinks she should have checked his chip after every visit and she says "Lesson learned". She also adds "Everything happens for a reason."

It is not even 3 weeks, he just got his new microchip and new rabies and we have 1 more week here, so we are going to be away from him only for 2 weeks.

It is really great because all the ladies in the ver are willing to help. Mel is like the "mascot" of that vet, he is happy there with those ladies, they all love them. They all want to keep Mel and offers their house for him. They want us to visit their houses and choose the one that we feel "good". This is so nice, right?

They will also carry Mel to the airport and do all the stuff there. This is a big responsibility but it is nice to know we have nice people there.

We can not cancel our flight, because my husband needs to start working in ETH on February 1st. I can not delay it because then where I am going to stay with the doggie? All of our friends have cats or allergies this and that Our landlord has already found new tenants so I can not stay in this current place for 2 more weeks. Plus, we just have the entry visa for now, which means we need to begin the paperwork as soon as possible to get the appropriate one.

2 weeks, not bad maybe..
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