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Dog Groomer-near Aigle in Vaud

Hello everyone,

We got Rusty from the SPVA shelter in Lausanne last Saturday. He is a 3-yr old 'big' dog, about 50kg, a mix of Bouvier Bernoise (Bernese Mountain dog) and Hovawart.

I'm looking for someone who knows about grooming big dogs in the Villeneuve, Aigle area of Vaud.

Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

Many thanks,
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Re: Dog Groomer-near Aigle in Vaud

David,

I'm afraid I can't help with your quest to find a groomer (as I am on the other side of the country, and the Muttley Crew are all DIY jobs anyway), but I just wanted to say...

What a beauty!

Good on you for adopting a dog in need - and may you and Rusty have many years of fun filled adventures together.

Wishing you both all the best.
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Re: Dog Groomer-near Aigle in Vaud

Dear Meloncollie,

Thank you for the compliment and good wishes. I am indeed a proud father (aka dog owner).

Here is another photo of him sleeping underneath the kitchen table.

Any DIY grooming tips?

Thanks again,
David
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Re: Dog Groomer-near Aigle in Vaud

First and most important - is Rusty accustomed to being groomed? If not, it’s important to desensitize, to teach him to accept grooming before going further. You don’t want a big, hairy dog who will need daily grooming to be resistant. Rather, you want him to come to see grooming as a positive experience. I use our daily grooming session as a time to reinforce bonding with my dogs.

A behaviorist I very much admire is Emily Larlham, of ‘Kikopup’ fame. She has produced a series of training videos on youtube - all very much worth watching.
https://dogmantics.com

Her list of free videos is here:
https://dogmantics.com/free-video-list/

Her ‘How to train your dog to relax for nail clipping’ (an important part of grooming) is here:
https://dogmantics.com/2008/02/19/ho...nail-clipping/

You can use the same tactics for brushing.

Also look at the counter conditioning videos - these are the basics to teaching a dog how to re-think any activity that you want him to accept.

(Ms Larlham's videos cover a range of topics, and I really do recommend them. She has a common sense approach using only positive reinforcement, rejecting the use of aversives and coercion. A valuable resource for any dog owner - and free!)

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As to the brushing:

Does Rusty have a double coat - that is a wooly undercoat and a stiffer, longer top coat - or a single coat? How I would groom and what brushes I would use depend on the coat type.

So before I natter on too long, it would help if you described his coat.
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First, thanks for the links to kikopup. Very interesting indeed.

Years ago, I read this article in the NYTimes on how exotic animal trainers work using positive reinforcement, written by Amy Sutherland. She used the same techniques on her husband and it worked. There is no better way.

For training, I've started using Michael Ellis' techniques. There are many vids on the Leerberg website, in addition to many free youtube videos.

About his coat, well, yes, I would say that he has two coats. He loves the attention of being combed. He doesn't complain either. I have yet to even buy a nail clipper though.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Dog Groomer-near Aigle in Vaud

If you don't mind the journey I can recommend a great groomer in Nyon....
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Dear Whitters,

So far, I don't know any at all, so please send me the contact details.

Many thanks,
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Re: Dog Groomer-near Aigle in Vaud

Rusty is just magnificent David - and judging from your second photo, already has his feet (paws) well and truly under the table!

I wish you both many, many happy times together.
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Dear Merrylegs,

Thanks!

He even knows that he is not allowed around the table when we are eating!

All the best,
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Re: Dog Groomer-near Aigle in Vaud

David, I have just looked again at the "under the kitchen table" photo. I felt I just wanted to reach out and tickle Rusty's tummy! He looks a very affectionate dog, and obviously has good table manners! Please continue to give us updates on Rusty
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Dear Merrylegs,

That is sweet of you. Yes, he loves getting his tummy rubbed, or anywhere else for that matter.

Is your dog a terrier or a cross?

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The dog shown in my Avatar was called Susie David. She was a Yorkie/Teckel cross. We adopted her in February 1992 when she was just 7 weeks old from our local Animal Shelter. She left us in August 2008, just 6 weeks before her 17th birthday. She was my heart dog.

Rookie, our present dog, is a gorgeous little JR/Pinscher cross. Totally laid-back and just adorable. He was born in Portugal in 2006, and came to live with his Portuguese/Swiss family in the Valais when he was just 6 months old. All went well for three years, but then one of the children in the family started to have allergy problems, so a new home had to be found for Rookie, and we were the lucky people to take him in October 2008. Destiny was working overtime the day we found him - car problems, the autoroute being closed because of a serious accident, (we were driving to the Valais), having to take another route, all culminated in us visiting a pet shop known to us (but not on our original itinerary), just to see if someone was looking for a home for a dog - Rookie's photo had been put on the shop's notice board just one hour before we arrived! The shop called Rookie's then family, and they came to the store with the little fellow (I had been looking for a dog for several weeks at this point) and the moment I saw him, I immediately fell in love with him. We officially adopted him the following day He is a dearly-loved member of our family (who at the moment is laying at my feet, snoring loudly!
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Re: Dog Groomer-near Aigle in Vaud

My DIY grooming routine for double-coated long haired dogs:

Please note that I am not a groomer, and my dogs will never look like show dogs. I'm going for practicality and hygiene. I keep it simple. My dogs (rough collies and shelties) have a very thick undercoat and a stiff long top coat. The undercoat needs daily work to keep it from matting - this is where I spend most of my time.

Tools, with examples - these can be found at most Swiss pet stores:
Long toothed undercoat rake
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...4&pcatid=26044
or
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...4&pcatid=27124

Kong Zoom Groom, or a curry comb:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...92&pcatid=3292

PuppySlicker - soft wire pins that are straight, not bent.
https://www.qualipet.ch/shop/hunde/h...upfburste.html

Nylon (not wire) Pin/Bristle Brush combo:
http://www.fressnapf.ch/de/doppelbue...-blau-604.html

Grooming scissors.
https://www.qualipet.ch/shop/hunde/h...re-l-17cm.html



Things I found did more harm than good:
Furminator/Coat King/MoultMaster shedding type tools that cut the undercoat
Shedding blades
Matt breakers

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I first use the Zoom Groom to loosen up the undercoat. This doesn't really take out any of the undercoat, but it makes it easier to get a brush through it. And the dogs love the 'massage'.

If the undercoat is matted, the coat rake - used very gently - is the next step. The wide teeth will mostly break up the matt. Don't go down to the skin if matted, as this will just pull and cause pain. Rather start at the top of the matt, once that is broken then try a layer deeper.

Once the matts are loosened I then use the puppy/soft slicker. I don't like regular slickers, those with long bent wire pins, as IME these pull too hard on the matted undercoat, causing discomfort. The soft slicker takes more time, but I think is easier on the dog.

If the undercoat is in good shape, it usually is enough to start using the pin brush to go through the undercoat, again going slowly and gently. The pins will pick up any dead undercoat - you will need to clean the brush frequently. The goal is to be able to brush through the entire coat without getting caught on matts.

Once the undercoat is done, use the bristle brush on the top coat.

Pay attention to the ears - this is where most knots form. When the dog scratches behind his ears you can bet you will find knots. If you keep up with knots as they are forming you can usually brush them out. I use the bristle first to loosen the knots, then the pin brush to break them apart. If the knots are quite tight it is often better to cut them out than torture the dog. (Remember, I'm going for practicality, not show coats.)

Also take care around the elbows, another matt-prone area.

And watch the back-end feathers; these will need daily attention. Be aware that the area is sensitive. I usually use just the bristle brush, cutting out any matts rather than trying to break them up. (With collies and shelties there is so much hair that cutting out a knot is not noticeable.) Some owners of long haired dogs prefer to trim the back end feathers for hygiene reasons. I don't, but I do keep an eye on cleanliness.)

The tail is also sensitive, again I just use the bristle brush.

Trim the fur around the feet, watching for growth between the pads.

As you are grooming, watch the skin for any lesions, cysts, warts, etc. If uncertain about any growth you find, ask your vet.

Rough collies and sheltie tend to have dry skin, so bathing is kept to a minimum - about once a year, or when the little darlings roll in something unspeakable.

I don't know about your dog's skin type - but be aware that too frequent bathing can be detrimental. I use a very gentle shampoo for dry skin. Most brands are similar, you can find a range of shampoos choices in all pet stores. I do not use an insecticide type shampoo - these are all too harsh for my guys.

Regular brushing means that I rarely have to bathe the dogs. When I do, I just pop them in the shower. (Oh how I miss the dog-shower I had built in my mud room in my house in the States!)

Nail trimming is always an issue - and one to work on desensitizing if your dog finds it distressful. If your dog's nails are clear it's easy as the quick is visible - just use a nail trimmer, being careful to keep well clear of the quick.

Black nails are more difficult, as you cannot see the quick. I just take off a very little bit once a month.

When you accidentally hit the quick, the bleeding will usually stop soon. If necessary, Blutstillendewatte or styptic powder are handy to stop excessive bleeding. Styptic power is much easier to use, but I have not been able to find it here, so I bring it with me from the States.

If you are uneasy about trimming nails yourself, this is a task that can be left to a groomer or vet. My vet trims the black nails as needed whenever we are there for a consult for other reasons.

One of mine had the quick growing down to the very edge of the nail - this is a condition some senior dogs develop. With him, the vet had to do his nails, cauterizing the quick as he went along.


One more grooming tool: A really good vacuum cleaner and upholstery brush. No matter how carefully you groom your dog you will still find fur tumbleweeds blowing across the room.

There are hundreds of grooming videos on youtube, btw. Bottom line - just do a little every day, try different techniques - pretty soon you will learn what works best for you and your four footed friend.

Rusty is a gorgeous guy - have fun!
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Re: Dog Groomer-near Aigle in Vaud

Hello, everyone

I'm not near Aigle, but am living in Vaud, in a small village about 15 km northwest of Lausanne. I figured I could just ask here instead of starting a new thread.

We just moved here about 10 days ago, and the house we've moved into has a pond in the back yard that our German Shepherd cannot resist jumping into every couple of days. It's relatively filthy, which of course makes him love it even more, but also makes him pretty filthy himself. We can bathe him ourselves, but sometimes it's nice to have someone else do it.

Is anyone aware of any groomers (or do-it-yourself places, if they exist in Switzerland) in the area between Lausanne and Vevey? Thanks for any help.
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