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Old 03.01.2015, 16:41
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

Yep, the Idiot Labrador is the only identifiable dog we've ever had. She was a rescue, almost certainly an unwanted Christmas gift, who was found locked in a shed, severely malnourished and covered in her own faeces - at six months old. There are no words for what I want to do to people like that

She's small for a labrador and will never grow into her feet, but other than that, you would never know that she'd been mistreated. Such a happy, relaxed, friendly hound
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Old 04.01.2015, 01:18
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And unfortunately it comes down to one thing - money.

I am a member of a Bulldog rescue and rehoming forum and one of our members posted this morning that her beloved dog had been found after being stolen 6 days ago. He had been locked in a van, was covered in cuts and had been used for constant stud work. Luckily as his details were shared extensively a member of the public alerted the police as the dog was advertised on the internet. If the dog had not been sold he was on his way to Eastern Europe.

What the answer is to stop this - I don't know. It seems so sad that you can't walk your dog alone for fear of being attacked so someone can steal your beloved pet.
When my daughter told me never to leave the dog unattended in front of the shop because people would steal purebreds, I did not really believe it. But your story opened my eyes. I really don't know what to say. Ebby is spayed, too, but I guess they would not notice at first and when they noticed, I don't want to imagine what they would do with her. F****** b****s
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Old 04.01.2015, 11:16
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

While working to eliminate battery farming and money-driven ‘fashion’ breeding, blame must also be placed squarely on uninformed and irresponsible buyers who create the demand for this unhealthy and downright dangerous breeding.

If more people approached dog ownership with even a modicum of responsibility we’d eventually see that the abusive battery farmer, those who breed for unhealthy exaggerated traits, the unethical producers of crosses marketed under silly ‘designer’ names would go out of business, as demand would drop sharply. We'd see the clueless BYBs forced to take some responsibility for their 'accidents'. We must - somehow - find a better way to educate potential dog buyers.

Sadly, despite efforts at education campaigns, despite the better breed clubs turning to more stringent policing of their member breeders, despite stricter animal welfare laws, despite federally mandated classes designed to inform the first time buyer - the problem is only getting worse.

We need to change the way people fundamentally view dog ownership.

There are days when I click on the Pets Corner here on EF and just want to cry. How many times have we seen a poster who wants a puppy NOW, having put no thought whatsoever into even the basics of dog ownership?

(A side note: I am often suspicious of those whose first post on EF is ‘I want an XYZ puppy but can't find a breeder in Switzerland who has one available now'. Very strange first posts on a forum for foreigners in Switzerland. Sets my spidey senses tingling, expecting a sock puppet further down thread pointing to a battery farmer...)

And sadly, how often have we seen here that dogs are viewed as disposable items, to be gotten rid of when a move abroad looms, when children come along, when the neighbors grumble, when parents are too busy - in short, anytime a dog becomes ‘inconvenient’?

How often have we seen that people - Swiss and foreigner alike, have no clue what Swiss animal welfare or animal control law requires of them - and even when informed, clearly have no intention of following the law? How often have we seen that the authorities, having put stringent law into place, completely wash their hands of enforcement?

In some ways I get even more angry at the lack of responsibility one finds here in Switzerland than I do when I see the awful things that go on in other, poorer, countries. Switzerland has the resources, Switzerland has the legal framework - Switzerland should be able to better protect it’s animals.

Yet we are seeing the laws currently on the books starting to be watered down. We’ve seen all too often that the ‘honor system’ is no longer enough, that too many people blithely ignore laws with which they personally disagree, without consequence. All that is happening is that irresponsible owners are fueling a growing anti-dog attitude in Swiss society.

If we can’t address animal welfare in a meaningful way in a country like Switzerland, what chance is there elsewhere, where challenges are so much greater?

I despair, I really do.

But I suppose we have to keep slogging away. We have to find a way to educate potential dog owners as to their responsibilities, both in finding their dog, and in what it means to bring a dog to their families and to keep him happy and healthy for the next 15 plus years.

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Time to take the mutts out for their Sunday constitutional.
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Old 12.01.2015, 02:30
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There is a lot going wrong in dog breeding - German shepherds bred for a low sloping back which causes severe back and hip problems, bassets with ears so long they stumble over them and the ears are constantly sore from sliding on the ground, bulldogs and pugs that can't breathe, hairless dogs that need sunscreen in the summer and warm coats in the winter - the list goes on and on, and then we end up with miniatures who are basically not able to live a normal dog's life. It's a shame.

And let's not talk about so many other breeds that are prone for certain illnesses, where Great Danes are no exceptions.
As an owner of Bassets, all rescued, I can tell you that these are not considered "fashionable" dogs, they are prone to back problems, are often misunderstood and their ears do require a lot of care. Our dogs don't trip over their ears but the ears can get quite dirty.

On the other hand, how many dogs do you know who have their very own sleeping mask for their eyes?
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Old 12.01.2015, 21:22
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

I always dispear when dog breeds start to become 'fashionable', you know that it won't be good for the breed. Many people don't do enough research before buying a dog to make sure that they are compatable with the dog and it's breed foibles! Here in the UK the mixed breeds such as labradoodles, cockapoos, puggles etc are sooo very fashionable. I even met some one who said they had a minature labradoodle!!! We have a whippet and I see them becoming increasinginly popular and that is not a good thing ... There are already sooo many in rescue, we don't want more ending up there! I just wish people would do their research before just buying a cute puppy!
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

The poor little dog broke his other leg yesterday- the other one had only just healed properly and screws still in.

This is so tragic as the family is besotted with the little thing- and so attached. Dad is unemployed now and money is very tight- and they haven't been able to finish paying for the first broken leg.

Please, please- as said in the previous post- do not buy 'cheap' dogs from foreign breeders and without doing all the proper research first. Breeding the runt of the litter with the runt of the litter- again and again- is a recipe for disaster- tragic.
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

Odile, I feel for your friends. My parents had a dog like that. The 3rd leg broke before the 2nd one healed. Turns out she had a degenerative bone disorder which is common in inbreeding. She had to be put down at 6 months. So sad.

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The poor little dog broke his other leg yesterday- the other one had only just healed properly and screws still in.

This is so tragic as the family is besotted with the little thing- and so attached. Dad is unemployed now and money is very tight- and they haven't been able to finish paying for the first broken leg.

Please, please- as said in the previous post- do not buy 'cheap' dogs from foreign breeders and without doing all the proper research first. Breeding the runt of the litter with the runt of the litter- again and again- is a recipe for disaster- tragic.
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The poor little dog broke his other leg yesterday- the other one had only just healed properly and screws still in.

This is so tragic as the family is besotted with the little thing- and so attached. Dad is unemployed now and money is very tight- and they haven't been able to finish paying for the first broken leg.

Please, please- as said in the previous post- do not buy 'cheap' dogs from foreign breeders and without doing all the proper research first. Breeding the runt of the litter with the runt of the litter- again and again- is a recipe for disaster- tragic.
Oh poor thing
How can people be so irresponsible and support such crimes by buying these dogs? Obviously as long as there are buyers, there will always be 'supply'.

I also know of a family who decided to buy a Maltese dog. They picked it up in St. Gallen at a petrol station Sure enough, the poor creature was only about a month old, it was so young it barely had any fur. It slept all day in front of a loud tv, constantly being woken up by the two younger kids (10 and 12). I amost cried when I saw it and was so so angry at them for buying the dog. They're not even tight on money, so why couldn't they go to a licensed breeder?!
Two weeks later, they bought another one, from the same litter
Today, about a year later, the first one (female) is hyperactive and doesn't listen AT ALL. The second one (male) is incredibly aggressive towards other dogs, but downright depressed at home, mostly lying under the table.

As Odile said, do not support this awful business of dog breeding and if you know of anyone who is considering buying a dog, please also tell them not to buy 'cheap' dogs.
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

The crazy thing is that often the tiniest puppies are actually more expensive. And people are so ignorant they pay it! These puppies invariably have health issues, and people pay extra for that! A lady I know has one of these teeny tiny chihuahuas. She has spent over $10,000 on vet bills so far, and the dog is only four years old.

One client we had bought a jack russel puppy. The breeder basically told her to starve the puppy to keep him small. The poor thing almost died.

Another lady brought in a little yorkie. She was losing all her hair, which happens to badly bred yorkies. When she found out there is no cure, she didn't want her sweet little dog anymore.


People need to do their homework.

Buying a registered dog is not an indication of quality. The kennel clubs don't inspect the breeder's facilities nor their puppies. Most are inbred, which they disguise as "line breeding". The breed standards for show dogs actually promote unethical breeding. There are serious health problems with breeds such as the cavalier king charles, german shepherd, bulldog,..., and many more. And many of the "champion" dogs have those issues.

Unfortunately getting a mutt does not guarantee it will be healthy.
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