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Miniature dog breeding

All in the rage at the moment. Friend of our in France have just bought a miniature Yorkshire terrier- he is so cute, but I do worry about the future. He was apparently the only puppy in the litter- bred by breeding the runt of the litter, with the runt of the litter- and so one. Is this not a recipe for disaster? And they let him go at just 2 months old... because they were going on holiday. All fingers crossed- but really, I despair.
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Old 19.08.2014, 16:39
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

I also despair. This deliberate breeding poor dogs is now illegal in Switzerland, by the way.
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Old 19.08.2014, 16:44
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

I suspect this poor little dog will probably have a life full of illness and not live to it's proper life span.

The Dog World is full of dogs being bred in Eastern European countries and being imported often when they are not old enough to be taken away from their mothers. These dogs have false papers saying they are older and their outlook is bleak
If you do buy a popular breed it is imperative that you research the breeding and only buy from a recognised breeder. Never a pet shop or from the local paper.
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

Thanks Smackerjack- they bought it in nearby France, from a private person. They are such a lovely family and the daughter was desperate- and they fell for the cute effect and very small size. I can't say anything as it is too late, deed is done- they are financially 'challenged' and are so happy to have found a little Yorkshire at a price they could afford. Let's hope as he is indeed very cute. They did see it with the mum- so not imported- so at least good news on that side.
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

Sadly the little dog, who is still tiny at 6 months and now full size- broke his leg on Christmas Day, by jumping off the settee. He has had to have a big and difficult operation, due to the tiny brittle bone, and is plated- with another op necessary later if and when it heals.

Breaks my heart for him, and for them as they are besotted- and of course will never say 'told you so'. But what do people expect from the result of deliberately breeding the weakest, with the weakest, and so on??? So sad- as it is likely to happen again, with this or another bone- and the family can't afford the vet bills.

Brittles bones is a clear result of such breeding grrrrrrrrrrr

A lot of these dogs are bred and bought abroad- often come from awful puppy farms- and people buy them abroad as they are more freely available and cheaper sick.

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Old 02.01.2015, 16:56
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

Poor, poor pup.

Thankfully (some) animal welfare authorities in Switzerland are starting to see the light. In the new revision to the TSchV, article 10 forbids breeding dogs where the adult weight is expected to be 1500 grams or less - defining breeding for minaturization as abuse. That addresses the so-called teacups.

http://www.tierimrecht.org/de/PDF_Fi...beimZchten.pdf (See page 3 of this document.)


Now that we've got the law on the books, I can only keep my thumbs pressed that the authorities will actually find the backbone (and resources) to enforce it.

(Sadly, as I see over and over and over again here wrt animal welfare law in Switzerland, enforcement is rare and resources scarce - and the worst of the offenders are usually so well connected that a blind eye is turned.)

But a step in the right direction.

Thumbs pressed, paws crossed for this poor pup.
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

Tell them to buy a rat next time.
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Tell them to buy a rat next time.

Rats are clever and affectionate animals, and they make great pets.

Unfortunately they also have a very short lifespan, which is very hard on their owners as one grows attached to them very fast.
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

My god.

It's a sign of the Apocalypse.

The world is being taken over by Chihuahuas!

(Horny little buggers...)
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Old 02.01.2015, 21:24
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But what do people expect from the result of deliberately breeding the weakest, with the weakest, and so on???
A Swiss mountain village?

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So sad- as it is likely to happen again, with this or another bone- and the family can't afford the vet bills.
If there was ever a case for recommending pet insurance, this is probably one ...... before it's too late.
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

OH,sad indeed !
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Rats are clever and affectionate animals, and they make great pets.

Unfortunately they also have a very short lifespan, which is very hard on their owners as one grows attached to them very fast.
Yeah, my cat needs one per meal
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

There is a lot going wrong in dog breeding - German shepherds bred for a low sloping back which causes severe back and hip problems, bassets with ears so long they stumble over them and the ears are constantly sore from sliding on the ground, bulldogs and pugs that can't breathe, hairless dogs that need sunscreen in the summer and warm coats in the winter - the list goes on and on, and then we end up with miniatures who are basically not able to live a normal dog's life. It's a shame.

And let's not talk about so many other breeds that are prone for certain illnesses, where Great Danes are no exceptions.
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Old 03.01.2015, 12:19
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There is a lot going wrong in dog breeding - German shepherds bred for a low sloping back which causes severe back and hip problems, bassets with ears so long they stumble over them and the ears are constantly sore from sliding on the ground, bulldogs and pugs that can't breathe, hairless dogs that need sunscreen in the summer and warm coats in the winter - the list goes on and on, and then we end up with miniatures who are basically not able to live a normal dog's life. It's a shame.

And let's not talk about so many other breeds that are prone for certain illnesses, where Great Danes are no exceptions.
And unfortunately it comes down to one thing - money.

I am a member of a Bulldog rescue and rehoming forum and one of our members posted this morning that her beloved dog had been found after being stolen 6 days ago. He had been locked in a van, was covered in cuts and had been used for constant stud work. Luckily as his details were shared extensively a member of the public alerted the police as the dog was advertised on the internet. If the dog had not been sold he was on his way to Eastern Europe.

What the answer is to stop this - I don't know. It seems so sad that you can't walk your dog alone for fear of being attacked so someone can steal your beloved pet.
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Old 03.01.2015, 12:55
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

Two things, I'd say - money and vanity.

Too many people see a dog as a lifestyle accessory and want a specific pedigree dog to show off, instead of a healthy, friendly mutt to be part of the family. "Fashionable" breeds create a demand that is met by puppy-mills and theft, and when the dogs turn out not be as easy to look after as a handbag, they're neglected, abandoned, or put-down.
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Two things, I'd say - money and vanity.

Too many people see a dog as a lifestyle accessory and want a specific pedigree dog to show off, instead of a healthy, friendly mutt to be part of the family. "Fashionable" breeds create a demand that is met by puppy-mills and theft, and when the dogs turn out not be as easy to look after as a handbag, they're neglected, abandoned, or put-down.
And most of all the media who show these stupid celebrities with their dogs- in my mind that fuels this evil
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

My mom inherited a teacup poodle like that. She weighs less than 2 kg, goes into fits of rage when ever she hears a squeaky toy and attacked my mom three times (once giving her blood poisoning). When she gets stressed out she eats her own feces. She also has some very expensive knee problems. That's inbreeding for you.
My parents normally rescue dogs, like their new adorable spaniel mix, but this one was left to them by a deceased aunt.
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And unfortunately it comes down to one thing - money.

I am a member of a Bulldog rescue and rehoming forum and one of our members posted this morning that her beloved dog had been found after being stolen 6 days ago. He had been locked in a van, was covered in cuts and had been used for constant stud work. Luckily as his details were shared extensively a member of the public alerted the police as the dog was advertised on the internet. If the dog had not been sold he was on his way to Eastern Europe.

What the answer is to stop this - I don't know. It seems so sad that you can't walk your dog alone for fear of being attacked so someone can steal your beloved pet.
Horrible story! That is why I felt so uneasy until I sterilized my bitch (I did it as soon as possible). Even if someone stole her, she wouldn't be used in a puppy mill, impregnated over and over again.
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My god.

It's a sign of the Apocalypse.

The world is being taken over by Chihuahuas!

(Horny little buggers...)
I have a chi and she is adorable with everyone, strangers included. She isn't treated like a princess nor is carried in a Paris hilton kind of bag.

She ain't a tea cup either but she is small because, well, chihuahuas are the smallest dog breed. If you treat them like babies, they will take over you fast and will become very difficult to live with.

She doesn't bite anyone not even my 3 years old rough boy. She is fast, really fast and she tells when she wants to be left alone. You have to teach the kids to recognize the signs.

I know this thread isn't about them but about unnatural breeding of small dog to create smaller one. Please, don't out chihuahuas in that because it isn't true. They have a bad reputation of barking little vicious thing but it ain't the reality. They are actually very clever and enjoyable dogs to have around.
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Re: Miniature dog breeding

Slinky the dachshund we adopted alst year, is the only bred dog we've had. He was also stolen and later found by the RSPCA in a flat in the Midlands, full of other stolen pure bred dogs stolen for re-sale and stud/puppy farms- and then abandonned. It took a couple of weeks for neighbours to finally complain, and by the time the RSPCA arrived, all the small dogs had been killed and eaten by the larger ones. He is such a fighter and knows how to hide under a blanket and pretend not to be there. Daughter saw him on the news on TV and contacted the RSPCA immediately to adopt him. He was about 3 or 4 at the time and that was 12 years ago.

All our other pets found us- and are all Heinz 57- and all lived to a ripe old age, without any health problems to the last- 18-19 years old for both cats and dogs. Our current adoptee dog is 16-17. Slinky is also about the same, but won't be with us much longer due to his many health problems. Mind you, 15 for a pure bred dachshund is almost a miracle, says our vet.

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