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Casco bird shop - pet shop

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I am looking for a pet shop, I found one in Sihl City but it doesn't have much for parrots. I want the wooding big poll so that my Casco can stay on it ... around 1 meter to 2 meters high without putting it on a cage

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Re: Casco bird shop - pet shop

Firstly, did you ask the pet shop if they can order in what you want ?

Secondly, did you do an online search for petshops like this one?

http://www.petcenter.ch/index.php/vo...PqQRoCPBvw_wcB

Thirdly, you could try the bird hospital near Burkliplatz to ask them... or this one:
Volière Mythenquai (keine Greifvögel!)
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044 201 05 36

or this organisation
http://www.birdlife-zuerich.ch/vogel...eufige-fragen/
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Firstly, did you ask the pet shop if they can order in what you want ?

Secondly, did you do an online search for petshops like this one?

http://www.petcenter.ch/index.php/vo...PqQRoCPBvw_wcB

Thirdly, you could try the bird hospital near Burkliplatz to ask them... or this one:
Volière Mythenquai (keine Greifvögel!)
Mythenquai 1
8001 Zürich
044 201 05 36

or this organisation
http://www.birdlife-zuerich.ch/vogel...eufige-fragen/
I did all that dear searching asking but it was somehow hard, i don't speak german ... i am still learning ... and every site is in german .. no english and even if i ask them "Bird perches" they don't know ... i have to say wood all the time or Holz
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Re: Casco bird shop - pet shop

So, email them in English...or even phone them and ask if someone speaks english.

Amazingly, they might actually be able to help you. They might also be able to advise you on the regulations for care and control of rare and endangered parrots in Switzerland.

And please do not call me 'dear'...that is just offensive.
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How did you import your parrot ? Do you have a vet? Surely they would have advice on where to get the things you need...
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So, email them in English...or even phone them and ask if someone speaks english.

Amazingly, they might actually be able to help you. They might also be able to advise you on the regulations for care and control of rare and endangered parrots in Switzerland.

And please do not call me 'dear'...that is just offensive.
WOW you really shocked me ... i am trying to be polite here when i said dear!! i didn't know its offensive in your book ...

anyway i will try to ask my husband to speak to them since he is a german.


thanx anyway
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rare and endangered parrots in Switzerland.
google seems to think that a "casco" is the same as an african grey. Hardly rare nor endangered in captivity, though yes, vulnerable in the wild.


Switzerland has almost no market for mid-large birds - try German sites for much wider selection, though customs will hit you on importing.

Or, make your own. The vineyards have mountains of trimmings that they don't know what to do with. As it's a very hard wood, makes for excellent perch material.
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Re: Casco bird shop - pet shop

I think, but I not certain, that you are looking for a parrot stand. correct? There is a very limited selection of stands to purchase.

Or are you looking for a perch to fit inside a cage?

I can highly recommend a shop in Germany, Eckert, near Dogern in Germany.

You can also buy online from parrotshop.de
I bought my parrot enclosures there.
If you have it sent to a packge shop in Germany you will save on the shipping ( with minimum purchase).
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Re: Casco bird shop - pet shop

I ordered dog stuff from zooplus.de . They ship to Switzerland and shipping fees are very low (5 EUR, even for packages as heavy as 15kg).
They have a separate section for birds: http://www.zooplus.de/shop/vogel
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I ordered dog stuff from zooplus.de . They ship to Switzerland and shipping fees are very low (5 EUR, even for packages as heavy as 15kg).
They have a separate section for birds: http://www.zooplus.de/shop/vogel
I think they have what the OP is looking for.

http://www.zooplus.de/shop/vogel/kae...reisitz/198450
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Re: Casco bird shop - pet shop

The Swiss version is

http://www.zooplus.ch/shop/vogel/kae...reisitz/273271
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Re: Casco bird shop - pet shop

Which has dramatically lower selection and higher prices on several things. Yeah, you're paying mwst that you won't get back from the .de, but there are just several items you can't get from the .ch one.
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Re: Casco bird shop - pet shop

I use zooplus.de frequently. For the things I buy the price difference is significant.

I keep the orders under 50Euro and have never yet been hit with MWSt. Whether that's because I've stayed under the limit or because the packages are actually shipped from St Gallen - who knows.
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I use zooplus.de frequently. For the things I buy the price difference is significant.

I keep the orders under 50Euro and have never yet been hit with MWSt. Whether that's because I've stayed under the limit or because the packages are actually shipped from St Gallen - who knows.
You're thinking of the Zoll, which yes, you can avoid by keeping the total under the limit.

MWSt is German sales tax, which is already included in the listed prices. You should be able to claim that value back at the time of sale as they're shipping outside the EU. Unfortunately, they won't do it - I've asked directly.
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Re: Casco bird shop - pet shop

Swiss MWSt, actually.

When I order more than 50 (ish) Euro, I get hit with both Swiss MWSt and admin charges.


(Although there seems to be little rhyme or reason to the bills I get from the Post...)
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Swiss MWSt, actually.

When I order more than 50 (ish) Euro, I get hit with both Swiss MWSt and admin charges.


(Although there seems to be little rhyme or reason to the bills I get from the Post...)
That's Zoll.

Switzerland doesn't call it MWSt, we have VAT. Essentially what's happened at that point though is that you've paid VAT + MWSt, and VAT on the MWSt + the admin fees.

There are plenty of rules as to how it all works, though it's a long and complex document so I won't link it. Basically, most things are 8% (food is at 2.5%) and zoll of under CHF 5 isn't charged. That's a limit of CHF 62 (CHF 200 for food) for the sum of the declared value of the items + freight.

Of course sometimes they just feel like inspecting it, or that your value is wrong and should be changed. You can contest it, and maybe they'll waive the Zoll, but the admin fee has never been waived, in my experience.
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Switzerland doesn't call it MWSt, we have VAT.
MwST = Mehrwertsteuer (German, literally added-value tax, also in the German speaking parts of Switzerland) = Value-Added Tax = VAT (English). No national language in Switzerland calls it VAT.
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MwST = Mehrwertsteuer (German, literally added-value tax, also in the German speaking parts of Switzerland) = Value-Added Tax = VAT (English). No national language in Switzerland calls it VAT.
Yes, I know what it means. I've always had people refer to it as vat, in German, when referring to the Swiss tax. I did find it odd though, that an English acronym was being used.

That wasn't the point though. The point was that the price listed already has German sales tax that you can't deduct.

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I think, but I not certain, that you are looking for a parrot stand. correct? There is a very limited selection of stands to purchase.

Or are you looking for a perch to fit inside a cage?

I can highly recommend a shop in Germany, Eckert, near Dogern in Germany.

You can also buy online from parrotshop.de
I bought my parrot enclosures there.
If you have it sent to a packge shop in Germany you will save on the shipping ( with minimum purchase).
Hey guys i was a way for a while sorting things here in Zurich ... i never felt that hard living in country away from mine ... anyway..

yes i am looking for a bird perch which is wooden ... i don't wan to put it in a cage and also i want my flat to look pretty ours is 150 sam and its almost empty.

Thanks for the info is this shop Eckert in west germany, my husband's family from there... the sites parrotshop.de is amazing will get some stuff from there.

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google seems to think that a "casco" is the same as an african grey. Hardly rare nor endangered in captivity, though yes, vulnerable in the wild.


Switzerland has almost no market for mid-large birds - try German sites for much wider selection, though customs will hit you on importing.

Or, make your own. The vineyards have mountains of trimmings that they don't know what to do with. As it's a very hard wood, makes for excellent perch material.
its seems german sites has a lot of offers for parrots.. thank you

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I think they have what the OP is looking for.

http://www.zooplus.de/shop/vogel/kae...reisitz/198450
i checked it, i want to have a wood stand. even though this don'ts look bad

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I can highly recommend a shop in Germany, Eckert, near Dogern in Germany.

You can also buy online from parrotshop.de
So they are called "Java Kletterstangen" found that in your post

http://www.parrotshop.de/vogel/sitzs...und-co.?c=2906

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I use zooplus.de frequently. For the things I buy the price difference is significant.

I keep the orders under 50Euro and have never yet been hit with MWSt. Whether that's because I've stayed under the limit or because the packages are actually shipped from St Gallen - who knows.
For orders from zooplus.de, is German VAT deducted after the items have been mailed? In the shopping carts, they don't deduct the VAT if you select Switzerland as your country of delivery.

E.g. I put items for say € 50.- in the cart - total price due is €60.- (€10.- delivery), including German VAT.

I put items for € 25.- in the cart - total price due is € 35.- (€10.- delivery), including German VAT.

Are the following conclusions correct:
- I'm stuck paying for German VAT no matter what, but I get the difference (19% - 2.5%, that would be 17.5%) back because the items are being delivered to Switzerland.
- If my order is less than €45.- (including delivery!) I will probably not be hit with customs fees as the CHF amount probably won't be higher than 62.-.
- If I order something large for say €150.- including delivery, I'll need to pay the price shown in the zooplus.de shopping cart plus whichever amount of customs charges CH customs deems due, as well as an admin fee, but they should (?) adjust the amount of VAT due.
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