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What's wrong with dogs eye?

Yes he'll go to the vet tomorrow to get it checked. We just missed them today before closing.

So any eye-deas what's wrong? 16 week old american cocker, bright as a button, eating well and full of energy. Eyes have been quite gunky but we've cleaned with water and soft cloth. Today one has a red swelling on it. He doesn't seem at all bothered by it. Cherry eye seems to be the google diagnosis. Any experience with this? I'm guessing I'll need to bend over and accept the vet bill :/
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Re: What's wrong with dogs eye?

Looks like cherry eye to me.
No experience of it personally but Magregor's daughter had it with their Great Dane so maybe shoot her a PM.
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Re: What's wrong with dogs eye?

Glad to hear that you are going to the vet tomorrow.

It does look like it could be cherry eye (caveat - I am not a vet, just a stranger over t'internet ), and given that the incidence of the condition in cockers is somewhat higher than in the general population...

I think I remember that EF member McGregor's Daughter's lovely Ebby was treated for cherry eye. Hopefully she'll be along, but you might PM her for more info.

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Re: What's wrong with dogs eye?

Our cocker also had gunky eyes (but much, much older) - turned out to be that he wasn't producing sufficient moisture/tears and what was produced was thick and gunky.

Ended up having to apply a cream to both eyes, directly, daily to help produce/replace moisture.

Small pipette size of cream at 55 chufs a time for the rest of his life (I have reduced the daily dosing, though, as it seems not to be required after about a year - just periodic as it appears necessary).

Apparently not uncommon in cockers.
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Glad to hear that you are going to the vet tomorrow.

It does look like it could be cherry eye (caveat - I am not a vet, just a stranger over t'internet ), and given that the incidence of the condition in cockers is somewhat higher than in the general population...

I think I remember that EF member McGregor's Daughter's lovely Ebby was treated for cherry eye. Hopefully she'll be along, but you might PM her for more info.



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Hmmm not sure the family are toooo attached to him yet
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Our cocker also had gunky eyes (but much, much older) - turned out to be that he wasn't producing sufficient moisture/tears and what was produced was thick and gunky.

Ended up having to apply a cream to both eyes, directly, daily to help produce/replace moisture.

Small pipette size of cream at 55 chufs a time for the rest of his life (I have reduced the daily dosing, though, as it seems not to be required after about a year - just periodic as it appears necessary).

Apparently not uncommon in cockers.
No experience with cherry eye so I cannot say if that is what it is. Can only advise on the "gunk".

One of our dogs has blocked tear ducts and the problem is worse in the cold. We call it goopy eyes.

For years the condition was misdiagnosed as an infection but we now know better.

We use an eye rinse called Admyrin as well as Admyrin Gel Drops, both from Novartis.
http://mypetseyes.com/admyrin_products.html

I use cosmetic pads with the cleaner.

We have also used Vitamin A Drops from Bausch and Lomb.

Do let us know what the vet says.
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Re: What's wrong with dogs eye?

Yes, it looks like cherry eye. Our dane had it when she was still a pup and it needs to be operated. Usually it is at both eyes but Ebby had only one at first, some time later she had it on the other eye.

The operation is not dangerous and it can be fixed quite easily. Just make sure they don' t cut the nictitating membrane out, that is what they did in the olden days. Ask your vet what exactly they are going to do. Ebby is fine, can see without problems and it will not come back.
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Yes, it looks like cherry eye. Our dane had it when she was still a pup and it needs to be operated. Usually it is at both eyes but Ebby had only one at first, some time later she had it on the other eye.

The operation is not dangerous and it can be fixed quite easily. Just make sure they don' t cut the nictitating membrane out, that is what they did in the olden days. Ask your vet what exactly they are going to do. Ebby is fine, can see without problems and it will not come back.
Taaa .. Just what I thought yeah. I read about not removing the 'third eye lid' too. Both of his eyes were pretty red a couple of days ago (not as bad) and I cleaned them up of gunk and put it down to the cold wind outside, both cleared up over night.. This one has just flared up again today along with a fresh load of gunk.

Might have his face shaved.. would make it easier to remove the gunk
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Taaa .. Just what I thought yeah. I read about not removing the 'third eye lid' too. Both of his eyes were pretty red a couple of days ago (not as bad) and I cleaned them up of gunk and put it down to the cold wind outside, both cleared up over night.. This one has just flared up again today along with a fresh load of gunk.

Might have his face shaved.. would make it easier to remove the gunk
Do you have pet health insurance? This topic has been covered on EF but I thought I would mention it here because if I were to get a young dog here again, I would buy the health insurance. Hindsight is 20-20. When we moved back here with our 3 dogs, only 1 was young enough and eligible for the insurance. I think there are more pet insurance options now and the age limit may have been amended. The vet did the pre-check and then talked us out of it. She said what would pay monthly in premiums we could save and only pay when we need to.

Well since that day we have spent close to chf 6000 in medical expenses for that dog.

The monthly premiums were higher as she was not a puppy.

So it really might be worth looking into. As with all insurance there are exclusions so do read the fine print.

Best of luck at the vet tomorrow.
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Do you have pet health insurance? This topic has been covered on EF but I thought I would mention it here because if I were to get a young dog here again, I would buy the health insurance. Hindsight is 20-20. When we moved back here with our 3 dogs, only 1 was young enough and eligible for the insurance. I think there are more pet insurance options now and the age limit may have been amended. The vet did the pre-check and then talked us out of it. She said what would pay monthly in premiums we could save and only pay when we need to.

Well since that day we have spent close to chf 6000 in medical expenses for that dog.

The monthly premiums were higher as she was not a puppy.

So it really might be worth looking into. As with all insurance there are exclusions so do read the fine print.

Best of luck at the vet tomorrow.
We don't have insurance.. Been thinking about it but the consensus of the EF experts seemed to be that it wasn't worth it, reading the old posts on the subject. However, we'll ask our vet tomorrow .. If they recommend it generally or tell us one that they deal with etc, we'll take it. Looking at animalia assurance now and it seems good on the surface, coverage and price (15.- per month) but we'll see what the vet says.

Also need to sort out liability insurance which covers it.. Money pit!
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Re: What's wrong with dogs eye?

Well dogface went to vet ..
The vet confirmed the diagnosis and she popped the prolapsed eyelid back in under local anaesthetic. She said she would do that twice and then it would be off to an eye specialist to operate on it. Hit or miss if it stays back in. It's not very serious, blah blah..

Of course today it has popped out again and the vet is shut for a few days. But she gave us drops and wipes so we just wait.
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Re: What's wrong with dogs eye?

Paws crossed for the little one - hope all is OK over the weekend until you can see the vet again.
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Well dogface went to vet ..
The vet confirmed the diagnosis and she popped the prolapsed eyelid back in under local anaesthetic. She said she would do that twice and then it would be off to an eye specialist to operate on it. Hit or miss if it stays back in. It's not very serious, blah blah..

Of course today it has popped out again and the vet is shut for a few days. But she gave us drops and wipes so we just wait.
Sorry to hear that. Ebby keeps her paws crossed and says the operation is not dangerous and she was as fit as a fiddle an hour later.
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Paws crossed for the little one - hope all is OK over the weekend until you can see the vet again.
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Sorry to hear that. Ebby keeps her paws crossed and says the operation is not dangerous and she was as fit as a fiddle an hour later.
Ta much people.. He seems unfazed by it, full of energy as usual and not pawing it like it's annoying. But he's confined to the kitchen just to keep him a bit calmer, away from the kids. Theory is that the thing popped out again when he jumped down from the car boot so less bounding around and up and down stairs should be good

On the upside, vet was less than 70.- incl the wipes and drops. And she said insurance is crap - they don't deal directly at all and they recently heard from one client that after paying high-ish premiums for 7 years, the dog got sick and the insurer would only pay for it's destruction, not treatment. So doubt i'll bother.
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Re: What's wrong with dogs eye?

I have to say the ship's dog's insurers have been pretty good. Takes best part of a month to get the repayments back, but his recent bout of pancreatitis was covered without an eyelid batted. Since he's on expensive medication for life, the insurance has most definitely been worth it for him

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I have to say the ship's dog's insurers have been pretty good. Takes best part of a month to get the repayments back, but his recent bout of pancreatitis was covered without an eyelid batted. Since he's on expensive medication for life, the insurance has most definitely been worth it for him

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I may have accidentally bought some insurance :-/ Was browsing the Helvetica website and thought i was filling in a form for a quote, while drinking wine and lighting the fire and doing stuffs. And got an email back saying thanks for buying the insurance, documents will be with me soon!

Hey Ho.. It's less than 300 for the year and might be good for something.
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I may have accidentally bought some insurance :-/ Was browsing the Helvetica website and thought i was filling in a form for a quote, while drinking wine and lighting the fire and doing stuffs. And got an email back saying thanks for buying the insurance, documents will be with me soon!

Hey Ho.. It's less than 300 for the year and might be good for something.
The eye operation for starters unless it is deemed a pre-existing condition. Whenever you are referred to a specialist and general anaesthetic is involved, the costs start to add up.

As I said, I regret not taking the insurance, our dog was not a puppy at the time so the monthly premiums were much higher.

It is a bit like human health insurance where the insured pays directly and then is reimbursed. Perhaps you need to contact them in advance of an operation just to confirm coverage.

As with all insurance companies, pre-existing conditions could be excluded.
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I may have accidentally bought some insurance :-/ Was browsing the Helvetica website and thought i was filling in a form for a quote, while drinking wine and lighting the fire and doing stuffs. And got an email back saying thanks for buying the insurance, documents will be with me soon!

Hey Ho.. It's less than 300 for the year and might be good for something.
I find these health insurances for pets way too expensive. It's better to put a certain sum of money to the side in case you need it, and if not you will have some extra money.

If you actually bought one, they will not pay for the upcoming eye operation since it is a pre-existing condition and chances are, they will not pay for the second eye, either.

Can you cancel the contract within 14 days?

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Re: What's wrong with dogs eye?

I didn't have insurance for my cats.

But the last big bill, which was 1500 francs for an explosed bladder, plus 10 days in the vets - some bastard had kicked Jimmy hard - the vet took 300 francs off because i paid cash.

So, if the bill is high ask if there is any discount for cash payments. It may work.

Good luck - he is still a cutey even with the "eye".

And, don't forget Ebby was often into her mummy's marijuana stash....
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Re: What's wrong with dogs eye?

Latest update ..
He's been back at the vet and the vet spoke to her colleague for second opinion. He's still got the cherry eye, they decided it's pointless to push it back in again, he's to get the operation.. However they want to wait another 2-3 weeks because they fully expect the other eye will go too and need done.

Looks terrible but he doesn't seem to care.

Suppose getting both done together would be cost effective but I'm guessing he would be vision impaired until it healed up??
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