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Looking for a puppy

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After the xmas phase me and my boyfriend decided to get a dog. We decided to wait to make sure it wasn't one of those "we see others getting them" moments. He has previously had 2 dogs (outside of Switzerland).

We currently have 2 cats that are super friendly and playful. We have decided we would also like to have a puppy. Our cats are super well treated and the puppy will be no different. We have already found a school to start the SKN and will be starting it soon. We would also like to start choosing our new baby pup.

We are currently looking for a little dog from a small race. As mentioned we have two cats and they would all be sharing the same place so it would have to be really calm and friendly but that also likes to play a bit.

I was thinking maybe Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, Tibetan Spaniel, Yorkshire Terrier, French Bulldog or Boston Terrier.

Does any of you guys know where we can find a good breeder for these specific races and are there any that you know and would recommend?

Other races that you guys think might apply here will also do.

Any advice on having cats and dogs under same roof ?

We want to make sure we do everything right for us ,the puppy, and the cats.

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Old 03.01.2015, 21:16
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Re: Looking for a puppy

Get a miniature schnauzer, they are adorable, they don't shed hair and they are great companion dogs. Also, did I mention how gorgeous they are?

I'm looking for one myself, but I only arrived in Basel on the 1st, so slow going at the moment.

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Re: Looking for a puppy

I have experience with Welsh Corgis only, but as they grow up to 10-15 kgs, I think they might be too big for you (they call them "big dogs in a small dog body") -- but if in any case you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me, I'd do my best to help.

One additional thing -- if you rent your place, you will have to get a written permission from the owner / the agency to have a dog. I assume you had to do the same with your cats, right?
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Re: Looking for a puppy

Thank you for your replies.

We are gonna do some research on the breeds you guys suggested.

On our apartment contract it says we can have animals, but we are gonna give the owner a call since lots of people in the building own dogs.
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Old 03.01.2015, 23:59
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Re: Looking for a puppy

I would recommend doing the SKN first and then thinking about getting a dog; expectations of dog owners here are much more stringent than you might be used to.

Also, are you sure you want a puppy? Do you have immediate access to outdoor space where he can wee and poo? Is one of you at home throughout the day while you're house-training? Have you considered adopting an older dog who's already house-trained?

If you both work, can you afford doggy-daycare? Dogs are not big cats, most dogs aren't happy being left alone for hours at a time. Popping home at lunchtime to guve him a quick walk isn't really sufficient - lots of people do this, but its not fair on the dog. Are you really willing to walk him every single day, no matter how awful the weather, or whether you've got a cold, or you're busy, or you've got plans? Are you willing to do this for 15 years or more?

Almost all dogs will chase cats, even if only playfully, but until we came to Switzerland, we had two or three cats and two dogs for years with no problems - it's largely down to training the dog to be calm and sensible, and giving the cats safe spaces. Does your apartment have space to make a 'safe area' that the cats can retreat to (e.g. a spare bedroom that you can seal off with a baby gate)?
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Re: Looking for a puppy

Hi Lucy_who

Lets go step by step

1 - Yes we are sure we want a puppy, Im currently full time at home studying German and will have plenty of time to play with him and take him to do his necessities.

2 - We live in Adliswil, plenty of green around and we love doing geocaching during the weekends so it won't be a problem either.

3 - My partner has a super flexible schedule so we will make sure that at some point when I start working we can find a way for the doggy to have plenty of company.

4 - The weather is not a problem. My partner has had dogs before and he walked them in england where it rains way more often than here and the weather is much crappier.

5 - Thanks for the advice on the cat dog situation. We indeed have space to make it a safe zone for the cats.

Just a general comment I'd like to make, this was not a rushed decision and we are taking our time to make sure we choose the right breed and make sure everyone will be happy for the next 20 years to come.

Thank you for your concern and help
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Re: Looking for a puppy

Glad you have seriously considered all angles and hope it all works out for you.

One more question, as it has happened to other people I know- what will you do if the dog and the cats truly do not get on and their behaviour changes drastically due to the the changes- eg some cats start to poo and wee everywhere and become destructive? Now this is rare, but it can happen- how would you cope with those changes?

One of our dogs ended up in kennels for 6 months before we adopted her- due to new cats in the house which turned into disaster- and her previous owner totally unable to cope.

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Re: Looking for a puppy

Hi Odile

Actually we had our youngest cat before the other (approximately 2 years).

It's funny you ask that since it was the reason we got our second cat - she was not happy on her environment and was very shy. And we thought it was good both for her and for our cat if they stayed together. And the truth is she changed her behaviour completely and now both of them are perfectly comfortable and they play together and all of that

So yes, we have thought that through. With the cats we were careful to introduce them slowly and show both of them that it was ok. For the first couple of days they just smelled each other but then they grew fond of each other. So we think if we are patient with the introductions of cats-dog and if we let them have their own space it should be fine.

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Re: Looking for a puppy

I can't help you on the dog aspect, but for the cats - ensure they have a climbing tree or even two if space permits. This will allow them a place of their own to get up and away from the dog. A lot of people think separate beds or areas of the house are enough, but don't underestimate the importance of vertical space for cats.
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We currently have 2 cats that are super friendly and playful. We have decided we would also like to have a puppy. Our cats are super well treated and the puppy will be no different. We have already found a school to start the SKN and will be starting it soon. We would also like to start choosing our new baby pup.
I know of several situations where a puppy was introduced to a home with cats and it was a nightmare. It never improved.

You would be far better off choosing a dog from a rescue which has a known history and is compatible with cats.

The other thing is whether the landlord is going to allow so many pets in one apartment. I suspect you may have a problem. The landlord has allowed the cats. Just because others in your building have dogs, it does not mean you will be able to have both.
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Re: Looking for a puppy

@3Wishes Our cats have 4 scratchers. 2 of them are tree style with one of them nearly reaching the ceiling and the other is around 1.60m. Also, both of them are large to the sides. Here is a picture of one of them: http://media.mediazs.com/bilder/ging..._dsc0605_5.jpg (161 x 75 x 175 cm). So I think we're covered in that part on top of that we live in a flat with two separate bedrooms and a living room and dining room that can be gated (baby gate). Thank you for your advices

@Mrs.Doolittle We are looking at animal shelters and thanks to a user of this forum we got the email of a lady that also has animals for adoption and are in contact with her. We will be happy to take in a shelter puppy but we definitely want a puppy since we want to go through the process of raising him and educating him (having dogs isn't just about running in the park with them and easy/happy moments - it's all part of the bond you build with your dog). Regarding the landlord, proper permission has been given. Thank you for your advices
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Re: Looking for a puppy

Good luck, Ana Barbosa, in your quest to establish a happy household. Certainly sounds like you have done your research. Look forward to a photo of the happy threesome.
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Re: Looking for a puppy

I wouldn't worry too much about bonding with an older dog, if that's your main reason for wanting a puppy. Dogs live very much "in the moment", and most will bond rapidly to whoever feeds and cares for them. Our Old Dog was three when we adopted her and has been an absolute dream. Of course, some rescue dogs have deeper-seated problems and may not be suitable for you, but the shelter will know their animals and be able to give you advice.
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Re: Looking for a puppy

As we keep talking to shelters, we will message your guys here aswell for further help and advice. So please keep an eye out on this thread, and if you guys know any more questions, breeds, shelters and breeders you advice, post here please.

We are happy to take all the help we can get.

You've all been very useful so far! Thank you guys!
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We will be happy to take in a shelter puppy but we definitely want a puppy since we want to go through the process of raising him and educating him (having dogs isn't just about running in the park with them and easy/happy moments - it's all part of the bond you build with your dog).

As an owner of rescue dogs all adopted not as puppies, I can tell you that bonding with a dog has nothing to do with whether you raised them as puppies. In fact, I think it is a lot more work to give an older a dog a new home and to make them feel secure and loved, particularly if they came from unfortunate circumstances. To know you have succeeded in undoing negative behaviour is all that much more rewarding, at least for me. Not everyone is up to the challenge of taking on an older dog. They come with baggage and it takes a lot of patience to get past that.

It is much easier to get a puppy, most breeders are interested in your money. The fact that you have cats and how the puppy will fit in is of little or no interest. But if you were to adopt an adult dog from a rescue there may be a lot more questions about your home environment and the cats. They will have an interest in placing a dog who they know is compatible with cats, not that this is any guarantee that your cats will accept a dog at all.
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Hello, Ana.

I'm glad to hear that you're willing to take yet another pet into your home and give it love. I don't know much about the breeds you named, but I do know of an awesome animal shelter. Citydogs4StreetDogs is a great nonprofit organization that helps street dogs from Romania. I'm currently adopting a dog from them and I couldn't be happier with the service. I waited many years to actually have a dog (I wanted everything to be right for me and for the pet) and it's being fantastic. They're giving me full support and answering all of my questions and making sure I get the perfect dog for me. Maybe it would be interesting to check their website, perhaps you could fall in love with some of their available cutie dogs. (They often have puppies too!)
About the SKN course, I found this place (same owners of the animal shelter) and they have their courses in English, in a cheaper price than other schools I've seen.

Anyway, I hope you find the perfect four-legged friend for your household.
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Hello guys

Good news! We have now adopted a beautiful mini Yorkshire Terrier, 6 months old and used to cats. The owner could no longer take care of her so it ended up working well for both of us. The cats have already accepted her and I look forward to start the SKN pratical with her next week.

Also, I would just like to say, if you are an english speaker, to do your SKN theory course with http://www.funandplay.ch/901.html. She was amazing and taught me a lot.

Thank you all for all the useful tips!
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Hello, Ana.

I'm glad to hear that you're willing to take yet another pet into your home and give it love. I don't know much about the breeds you named, but I do know of an awesome animal shelter. Citydogs4StreetDogs is a great nonprofit organization that helps street dogs from Romania. I'm currently adopting a dog from them and I couldn't be happier with the service. I waited many years to actually have a dog (I wanted everything to be right for me and for the pet) and it's being fantastic. They're giving me full support and answering all of my questions and making sure I get the perfect dog for me. Maybe it would be interesting to check their website, perhaps you could fall in love with some of their available cutie dogs. (They often have puppies too!)
About the SKN course, I found this place (same owners of the animal shelter) and they have their courses in English, in a cheaper price than other schools I've seen.

Anyway, I hope you find the perfect four-legged friend for your household.

Why oh why did I click on that link....

I fell in love with Steffi, she's just gorgeous!!! I want her!!!
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Why oh why did I click on that link....

I fell in love with Steffi, she's just gorgeous!!! I want her!!!
beautiful website, adorable lizzy looks like she'll know how to work her future human

ps. i can't be the only one who wants to see a picture of a 6m old yorkshire
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Hello guys

Good news! We have now adopted a beautiful mini Yorkshire Terrier, 6 months old and used to cats. The owner could no longer take care of her so it ended up working well for both of us. The cats have already accepted her and I look forward to start the SKN pratical with her next week.

Also, I would just like to say, if you are an english speaker, to do your SKN theory course with http://www.funandplay.ch/901.html. She was amazing and taught me a lot.

Thank you all for all the useful tips!
Pictures or it didn't happen!
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