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Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

Hi,

My husband and I ordered a dog crate that will not be delivered in time for our puppy's arrival on March 8. We are looking to borrow a medium size crate for one to two weeks until ours arrives. We are getting a Bernese Mountain Dog so the crate would have to fit a large, rapidly growing puppy (currently 4.5kg). Is there someone in the Lausanne area that would be willing to lend us a crate for a small fee (or homemade pastries--I am a professional pastry chef)? Please message me if you are interested.

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Old 22.02.2015, 13:51
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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

Just curiously, are you set on using a crate?

I know there are diferent schools of thought re:crates, but I have never used a crate for any of the puppies I have raised to dogs, and found it absolutely natural. I am not a dog professional, just an animal lover who has had many pets over the years. I had never heard of "crate training" prior to most recent pupoy when I was living in UK (now 3yrs old), but was also informed by a good friend (also a breeder) in Sweden (where one half of me is from) that the use of crates when the dog is alone at home is illegal. Someone else I know recently sent a new puppy back to doggy mom/breeder because the young puppy was crying at night when left alone in crate and emerging in morning covered in its own mess...not sure what she (human) was thinking

I am not wanting to preach against crate training, but in case you shouldn't manage to get hold of one it is VERY feasible to have your new fluffball w/o...but the puppy may show more resistance to the crate when it arrives.

Good luck and enjoy your new family member!
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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

They are indeed the cutest of puppies- but I have to say, can't imagine crate training a Bernese. They are working dogs, and need lots, lots and lots more exercise and time and outdoor space. Hope you have a house and a garden, and lots and lots of time. I've always wanted one, but just too much of a handful for me, having seen many grow up with friends on farms.

I do have a largish crate you can borrow- plastic base and wire- but I am 50 mins from Lausanne and you'd need to pick up. If interested I'll go and measure exact dimensions.
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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

Thank you for your message. Yes, crate training is only one of many options and we do not plan on exclusively crate training the puppy. 50 mins away is a bit far, but I will let you know if we need to borrow your crate. Thanks for offering!
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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

A crate is a tool, no more no less. Used properly a crate can be very beneficial to a dog. Used inappropriately a crate can be abusive.

There is a world of difference between appropriate use, such as an aid to house training overnight or using a crate as a down-time ‘den’ to help a puppy learn the important settle skill, and abusive use such as leaving a dog for hours in a crate.

Of course one should never use a crate in place of dog care - as above, leaving a dog alone in a crate for hours is abuse. Similarly one should never use a crate as punishment, one should never use a crate with a dog suffering from separation anxiety or otherwise suffering from distress.

However, every dog should learn how to settle in a crate - after all, many Swiss dogs have to learn to travel in crates in cars - an ‘Autobox’ is a crate. Many dogs will have a hospital stay at some point in their lives which means staying in a crate, or will need ‘crate rest’, restricted activity, while recuperating from injuries. Many of us here have flown our dogs in travel crates as we move around the world. Given that many Swiss houses are open plan where baby gates are not possible, sometime a crate ‘den’ is the best option for those few times when a dog needs to be kept away from visitors such as repairmen who are uncomfortable around dogs. All these are situations made much less stressful to the dog if the dog has been properly acclimated to a crate when young and learned to see it as a place of comfort.

Certainly the OP will need a crate to transport her puppy home the first time, as a pup loose in the car would be dangerous to both the pups and driver. Hopefully the breeder has acclimated the pups to a travel crate already.

Since the OP hasn’t specified how she intends to use the crate, let’s give her the benefit of doubt - and help her find what she needs.
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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

I believe, when used properly, a crate can be a blessing. I am thinking of getting one myself (and of course teaching the pup it is a safe place to stay), because right now somebody has to be at home all the time and keep an eye on the little one.
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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

@ LausanneLinds

What you could do since this will only be a few days it to use a moving box (Ikea, OBI, Jumbo etc.) turned upside down with a "door" cut in one of the ends. You can place the dog's blanket inside the carton. Put a couple of heavier books on top to keep it from moving.

To sleep or rest the dog will want to go in/under something so the carton will be the same for the dog as a crate with a towel/blanket over the sides and back to make it dark. You just need a solution to keep him from wandering around.

This idea assumes you have a kitchen that you can block the doorway with a baby gate so the dog stays in the kitchen.

And we all want photos soon as he/she arrives.
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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

Firstly, I have sent crates by post. The travel crates come apart, the two pieces usually nest, and they are not heavy. As long as the dimensions do not exceed the basic post package requirements, it is not that expensive. You can build a large box to ship it in using 2 smaller ones. Less costly than driving 2 hours to pick one up.

Secondly, a crate is an invaluable tool if used properly. I am a firm believer in them. Recently our dog had bladder surgery and she needed to be trained all over again. So we bought a crate for indoors. Nothing else was working. But then the wrong dog kept going in the crate. So we bought a second crate. These two dogs love their crates, and yet they were the most difficult to train at the outset.

To the OP, my advice is to look on all the classified sites and see if you can find one.

Looking forward to seeing pictures of the new addition.
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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

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because right now somebody has to be at home all the time and keep an eye on the little one.
Heksita, have you found your pup?

If so... Congratulations! And where are the pics?
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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

Hi there,
I'd be happy to lend you my large dog crate. It looks a lot like this: http://www.petmate.com/vari-kennel-ultra-large-pet and should be big enough for your new furry friend.
It handled my girl who was a 78 lbs. Aussie/St.Bernard mix just fine for a very long flight (USA to Southeast Asia and back! as well as quiet recoup time when she injured her leg. )

Must admit I am most envious that you are getting a new furry friend. Berners can be great companions.
Have you had dogs before? What made you decide to get a Bernese Mountain Dog??
I will send you a private message this evening to sort out details if you'd like.
Enjoy puppy proofing your place!
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I'd be happy to lend you my large dog crate. It looks a lot like this: http://www.petmate.com/vari-kennel-ultra-large-pet and should be big enough for your new furry friend.
That is very kind of you. The plastic crates are great for travel and I like them for the car. We have the Atlas crates for this. We tried them in the house but the dogs didn't like them.

For indoors we (that would be me and the dogs) prefer the wire crates. I think the dogs feel less isolated as they can really see what is going on. Most of these crates have a plastic tray which you can remove for cleaning. Most fold easily as well.

The only drawback is the door does not come off. We keep the door open, and the dogs go in the crates on their own. So you need to have space for the door to stay open. Both our crates have 2 doors, one on the side, one on the front, so we have some flexibility with where to put them.

http://www.zooplus.ch/shop/hunde/hun...tkaefig/270821

We put an antislip carpet under the cages so they won't slide or scratch the floor. We stopped using crates for a long time and I sold the first set of crates we had. They had rollers on the bottom to protect the floor.
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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

Agreed, plastic ones to feel a bit claustrophobic to me- and perhaps would for the dog too. We much prefer the open wire ones (like the one we have available). It has side and front opening and folds down to about 20cm.

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Re: Looking to borrow a dog crate (Lausanne)

Thank you for your helpful suggestions and ideas and especially to those of you who have reached out with offers to borrow a temporary crate. Hopefully the very large VariKennel we ordered will arrive in short time, but we've brainstormed some alternatives that should work in case the order is delayed. Thanks again!
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