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What would you pay a dog sitter?

A non professional dog sitter, just somebody who likes dogs, for a week looking after our pup, in their house..

We have to offer something and we neither want to insult them or pay too much!

Ideas?
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Old 22.02.2015, 18:58
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Re: What would you pay a dog sitter?

A case of their favourite wine perhaps? Or take them out for a nice meal? And make sure you provide all the food, etc. Or do an exchange for something/favour they could need?
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Old 22.02.2015, 19:01
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A case of their favourite wine perhaps? Or take them out for a nice meal? And make sure you provide all the food, etc. Or do an exchange for something/favour they could need?
It's a monetary offer though .. It's somebody we don't know very well. We've never done it before and neither have they. It's 35 per night in a kennel, that's the only basis i have.
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Re: What would you pay a dog sitter?

25 CHF/day.
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Old 22.02.2015, 19:04
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Re: What would you pay a dog sitter?

Sorry, didn't realise you didn't know them. Yep, I'd say 25 a day sounds fair.
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Old 22.02.2015, 19:10
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Sorry, didn't realise you didn't know them. Yep, I'd say 25 a day sounds fair.
Thanks both .. It's pretty much what i was thinking, just wanted a second opinion.
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Old 22.02.2015, 20:07
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Re: What would you pay a dog sitter?

I boarded my dogs in a professional kennel and I paid 18 chf per dog per day.
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Old 22.02.2015, 20:14
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Re: What would you pay a dog sitter?

Depends on the region. And I'd say having a person looking over one pet only at their place sounds pretty luxurious (from the pet's point of view).
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Old 22.02.2015, 20:32
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Re: What would you pay a dog sitter?

Be aware that if money changes hands then in law the sitter becomes 'gewerbmässig', i.e. professional commercial - that is, the sitter is required to have done both the SKN theory and practical classes (for care of up to 5 dogs at one time - more than that requires the FBA or Tierpfleger diploma). Additionally, your private liability insurance might or might not cover a paid sitter , especially if working in the sitter's home - so you will want to check on that.

To give you a price point, in my area (greater ZH) a sitter who looks after one or 2 dogs from the same client family where the dogs are cared for in the sitter's home usually charges ca. CHF 100 per day. If in your home, the price is usually CHF 200 per day.

Now - depending on what level of care is being given/requested the sitter might not charge that much. If the sitter has his/her own dog, or if the sitter has children - both situations where the sitter will pay less attention to your pet - the price might be a bit less.

Whatever you do - even if the sitter is not a professional, if money is changing hands make sure you have a contract or at least written instructions, especially as to the 'what if's, including the ultimate 'what if' - an accident or illness where the sitter must make a decision as to treatment or euthanasia. Make sure you address what you authorize on the sitter's initiative, what requires contacting you - and how the finances around emergencies are to be handled. And make sure you are contactable 24/7 in case of emergency.

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One should of course plan for the 'what ifs' with a sitter who is not being paid as well, preferably in writing giving authorizations where needed, as emergencies can happen at any time.

ETA2 - Commercial is a better translation for 'gewerbmässig'.

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Old 22.02.2015, 20:33
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Depends on the region. And I'd say having a person looking over one pet only at their place sounds pretty luxurious (from the pet's point of view).
I know i could shop around and find a kennel .. However it's a bit last minute and they require kennel cough vaccination which he hasn't had yet. So I advertised locally and found somebody who wants to do it.. Their kids will enjoy it, the dog will enjoy it. When i asked what they charge they said they didn't know, just whatever - they only had their own dogs before, not dog-sat.
It's a big favour for us so i don't paying fairly.. Same time i think they'll have fun and enjoy it.

Hey ho..
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Old 22.02.2015, 20:34
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Re: What would you pay a dog sitter?

Somehow I find it a bit worrying that according to Melloncollie's post a dog sitter is paid MUCH more than a regular babysitter!
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Somehow I find it a bit worrying that according to Melloncollie's post a dog sitter is paid MUCH more than a regular babysitter!
you don't know what that family pays for the babysit
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Old 22.02.2015, 20:45
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Somehow I find it a bit worrying that according to Melloncollie's post a dog sitter is paid MUCH more than a regular babysitter!
And is far far far more regulated
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Somehow I find it a bit worrying that according to Melloncollie's post a dog sitter is paid MUCH more than a regular babysitter!
CHF 200 for a 24 hour day - because although the sitter is sleeping or doing his/her thing part of the time the responsibility remains - works out to less than CHF 9 per hour, a bargain in my book.

Sure, most of the time it's easy money. But you are paying for the 'what if's - and if you have ever had a 'what if' situation, you'll soon see that a responsible sitter is worth his/her weight in gold.
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Somehow I find it a bit worrying that according to Melloncollie's post a dog sitter is paid MUCH more than a regular babysitter!
Not sure what kind of babysitters you're hiring!!!
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Old 22.02.2015, 21:15
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Re: What would you pay a dog sitter?

Those perhaps, qualified and with experience, minimum salary (from the official Vaud website)

Employée de maison avec formation spécifique (CFC...) et expérience professionnelle:
salaire minimum brut de CHF 22.40 de l'heure
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A non professional dog sitter, just somebody who likes dogs, for a week looking after our pup, in their house..

We have to offer something and we neither want to insult them or pay too much!

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CHF 25 a day as the kennel charges more and they're professionals as opposed to your sitter.

If they do well and your dog is happy and healthy upon your return, add to this a CHF 30 voucher for a department store (so your sitter has choices as to what s/he wants to purchase with it). You can buy the voucher before your trip and if your dog is unhappy, keep it for yourself.
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.....where the dogs are cared for in the sitter's home usually charges ca. CHF 100 per day. If in your home, the price is usually CHF 200 per day. .....
Can you please explain why I would have to pay 100 CHF MORE if the dog sitter comes to my house????

Thanks....
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Old 23.02.2015, 10:53
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Can you please explain why I would have to pay 100 CHF MORE if the dog sitter comes to my house????

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I would assume because it means that the dog sitter is working exclusively for you during that time.
If you take your dog to her she can be doing other things too. ( looking after other dogs, cleaning her house, working in her computer, cooking the family dinner etc etc).
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Old 23.02.2015, 10:56
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Can you please explain why I would have to pay 100 CHF MORE if the dog sitter comes to my house????

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If the sitter is staying in your house then more time is devoted to your dog. More time will of course cost more.

When a sitter takes a dog into his/her house the dog slots in with the sitter's family and routine. The sitter is doing his/her normal housework, running errands, caring for his/her own family and pets in addition to yours. In this situation fewer hours a day are devoted exclusively to your dog.

When the sitter moves into your home obviously the sitter does not do any of the above - the sitter's time is exclusively devoted to your dog.

The CHF 200 per day average is generally figured on an assumed 8 hours spent actually working with your dog at CHF 25 per hour - the same wage you would pay a babysitter or other household worker. But you are getting a bargain - the sitter is there to care for your dog throughout the full day just as you would. Yes, he/she is sleeping overnight, you would have negotiated how much personal time the sitter would have away from the house during that time, and a good deal of the time at your home is spent doing one's own thing around the house - but 200 per day is actually a very good deal.

(I know of one sitter who charges CHF 600 per day - that is, 25 per hour for a 24 hour day.)

But either at your home or the sitter's, while one is not 'working' that is, interacting with your dog the full time, nonetheless the sitter takes on what is in effect 24/7 responsibility, just as the owner would. If a crisis occurs in the middle of the night, one needs a sitter who is both willing and able to respond. That responsibility is actually what you are paying for.

My sitter and I have been through two of the awful 'what if' situations. One anticipated and thus discussed and decision-making planned for, the other completely out of the blue. Every sitter and owner need to anticipate these terrible possibilities - and what you pay your sitter reflects the willingness and ability to take on this responsibility.


It should be stressed, though - if you are paying the sitter then under the TSchV the sitter needs to have done at a minimum both the SKN courses - the same courses that any owner has to do. A sitter takes on owner responsibilities, so it makes sense that the same legalities apply. I know that many people consider themselves as sitting 'casually' rather than professionally but still want to be paid - one needs to understand that it is payment that triggers the education requirements.

It is only the case of sitting as a favor, not for money, where the education requirements do not apply.

I've said this before but it bears repeating:

If you find an otherwise promising sitter who has not yet done the SKN courses, why not sponser that person for the course, have him/her do it with your dog while sitting for you? Win-win all around.

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