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Old 24.04.2008, 11:01
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dog obedience courses in english

Good morning! I searched on the EF for information on dog obedience courses in English but I did not find anything.

Is there anything available in English or will the German classes be adequate? My dog has already had a basic obedience class in the US but I would like to maintain and build on what she knows.
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Re: dog obedience courses in english

But if you take your dog to a Swiss obedience course it will become bilingual! How cool would that be.

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Is there anything available in English or will the German classes be adequate?
According to http://dict.leo.org "woof-woof" in German is "wau-wau".

I assume Swiss German is "wuffli-wuffli".

Does anybody know of other useful dog-phrases in German?

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Old 24.04.2008, 11:35
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Re: dog obedience courses in english

it may seem like a very stupid question but i wanted to be able to give standard commands in English so she can recognize what i am saying in English...

won't she get confused if i suddenly start giving her commands in German? or does it not matter at all? i am not asking to be a burden on anyone here...i just wanted to know.

i assumed that classes apply to the people as much as they do to the dogs and if the instructor is speaking only in German how would i really benefit if i don't understand why he or she is teaching a particular lesson. (i am taking german lessons but i only have a very basic knowledge at the moment.)
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Re: dog obedience courses in english

It's good idea to take classes throughout your dog's life - a reminder of the basics for you, and (assuming you find the right course) fun and stimulating for your dog.

In light of the Bundesrat's announcement yesterday re: obligatory courses for new dog owners, you'll probably want to find a course that is recognized by the BVET. Which courses are certified will be made public later.

There are many trainers out there, not all will be certified by the BVET.

Where in ZH are you, and how far would you travel? I could ask my trainer for a recommendation, if you like...

My dogs have done the basic obedience course, and those that are still relatively mobile and not away with the fairies most of the time attend Familienhund or special activity classes regularly. I find that ongoing training benefits me as much as it does my muttleys.

We do classes in German, simply because the trainer I like best only works in German. My German is functional, but far from fluent yet I've never had a problem with the course being held in German - just ask the trainer to demonstrate if you think you haven't understood a point. Also, while a trainer may only do group classes in German (or French or Italian), you might find that some are happy to do private lessons in English.

Unlike me, the mutts are all tri-lingual. Seriously, I've worked with dogs who only 'spoke' Chinese, Spanish, French, Italian and German at the time I adopted them. I train my dogs in English as well as the predominant language of the area I live in. It's important that they know commands in English because, in a panic, I will tend to use English first. Understanding commands in the local language is important, as you never know when your dog will need to obey another person as well.

Dogs certainly understand more than one word for an action - Think of how quickly they learn every synonym for 'dinnertime'. I start with the English command, then randomly change to German. They quickly learn that 'down' and 'Platz' both mean hit the floor - and that they will get a treat for doing as I ask.

After all, it's really about speaking 'Hundisch', isn't it?

ETA: Have you considered Clicker training? Or hand signals? I use both as well as spoken commands.

Two of my dogs are deaf, so I naturally need to use non-verbal communication with them. Once I started using hand signals with them, the hearing dogs quickly picked up on it and respond to hand signals as well as voice commands. The great thing is with signing you don't need to worry about which language is used. Also very useful when you need to 'shout' at your dog after Swiss quiet hours... :

Clicker training is a wonderful tool - the marker (the click) is a neutral, universal sound - no language issues there, either.

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Re: dog obedience courses in english

I might have a dog trainer for you. Im not sure if she is still doing it (she used to do it as a hobby and then got a "real" job). But she is amazing, she trains a la Cesar Milan, (positive reinforcement) "pack leader" "alpha" kind of stuff.
Contact me if you are interested. I will try and contact her today.
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Re: dog obedience courses in english

You could join the swiss dogs group on Yahoo and ask the question there,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dogs-Switzerland/

It's aimed at expat dog owners in switzerland and you always get plenty of suggestions and advice.
Teaching a dog in different languages isn't a problem, a lot of what they get is based on tone rather than the actual words,
My dogs understand Finnish, Swedish, English and some French, The only commands we have never taught except in one language are No (in Finnish) and Stop (In English) These are always used in one language as they are "emergency" words that we really don't want any possible confusion or misunderstanding of.
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Re: dog obedience courses in english

First thank you for all the kind souls who took my question seriously. At the moment my dog is still in the US. I just wanted to do the research for a gentle trainer. We live in kreise 10.

Since I have never taken my dog abroad before I really had no clue about what classes would be like but I thought as you said it might be important reinforcement to take classes. I am and would definitely consider other methods besides just voice commands.

My dog is a smooth red haired dachshund (dackel/teckel/hot dog/weenie dog/sausage dog...etc.). She was a rescue and I know she will need reinforcement and being able to give her this sort of structure through the first class she took was amazing. She was always very difficult and wary of people but after her first class she was very well behaved on a leash.

Now knowing that she can learn in multiple languages (as people do) this is very comforting to me. I did wonder how a dog would know to sit (if directed by a German speaker) if the dog had not first learned this.

If it is possible to have a personal trainer, or participate in small groups that would be great. I would be thankful to have any direction with a good trainer who has the patience for dachshunds.

will look into joining the swiss dogs group! thank you!
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I might have a dog trainer for you. Im not sure if she is still doing it (she used to do it as a hobby and then got a "real" job). But she is amazing, she trains a la Cesar Milan, (positive reinforcement) "pack leader" "alpha" kind of stuff.
Contact me if you are interested. I will try and contact her today.
Hi Mar25,

I've been trying to find this trainer's details for the past couple of days but I seem to have lost them. In February I found her through Google and was really impressed by what I read. Now that I have more time on my hands I thought I'd try to contact her, but she appears to have disappeared from ciberspace. I would love to get in touch with her as I need help with a very "barky" little Lhasa who would really benefit from learning to socialize with other dogs.

He's getting a bit of a handful, lunging, snarling and madly barking at all dogs and small children .

If you could help, I would really appreciate it.
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