Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Pet corner
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 30.07.2015, 20:50
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Berg am Irchel
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Felix_PS has no particular reputation at present
Hovawart in canton Zurich

Hello everyone! I just moved to Switzerland with my hovawart (16 months old) and I am very confused what I need to do now. As I understand I must do Theory test, what goes next? We went to dog school - took obedience classes (planned to train him for IPO) at home, so he knows some basic stuff. Do I need to do practical courses too? What about all the registering and insurance, I am completely new to all this, so I will appreciate any information. Big thanks in advance.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 30.07.2015, 21:43
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SZ
Posts: 7,617
Groaned at 18 Times in 17 Posts
Thanked 15,926 Times in 5,233 Posts
meloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Hovawart in canton Zurich

Because my fingers are too tired to type today , I'll give you the link to another post asking the same question, albeit with a Dogo Argentino:

Dogo argentino allowed in Swiss?

As for the federal SKN Theory course - as with the thread linked, you should contact the ZH cantonal Veterinäramt for a ruling on whether you are required to do the theory course or not, the decision is made individually. But it's just a 2 session class, there is no test, attendance is all that is required. As I say to every newly arrive dog owner: even if excused I really do recommend taking the SKN Theory course as it is a good source of information that you might not find so easily elsewhere.


You have the same issue as that other poster does with a large dog in canton Zürich. Due his size (over 45cm or 15 kg) your Hovawart is a List 1 dog in canton ZH. This means that you are required to take additional canton-specific education courses. In your case, your dog was born well after the cut off date, so you will need to do the Zürich List 1 courses. The federal SKN Practical will be rolled into your ZH cantonal List 1 courses.

As you already seem to have a very good start on training these courses should be easy-peasy for the two of you. Hopefully they will be fun as well, and give you a good introduction to Dogdom, Zürich style.

Obviously your dog is too old for Welpenforderung, but you will need to take the Junghund (dogs from 16 weeks to 18 months ) and Erwachsene courses.

More details can be found here, from the ZH cantonal veterinary office website:
http://www.veta.zh.ch/internet/gesun.../de/hunde.html

The list of ZH List 1 trainers can also be found on that website.

The Veterinäramt is the ultimate authority, so if you have any questions you should ask them directly. Always best to go to the source.

ETA:

Yes you need liability insurance, coverage of minimum 1mio.

And yes, you will need to register your dog, both with the ANIS database and with your Gemeinde. You have 10 days to do the ANIS registration, this needs to be done by a vet. This is federal law, so you can read about it, and other dog related issued regulated at the federal level from the Mein Heimtier website (a 'layperson's' version of the BLV site) here:

http://www.meinheimtier.ch/de/hunde

Go to your Gemeinde and tell them that you need to register your dog, they will take it from there. Be aware that there is a dog tax.


As for the other bits and bobs of ZH cantonal dog law - do you read German? If not I'll translate this for you - but assuming you do read German here is a summary of the Zürich regulations, from the Tier Im Recht foundation.

http://www.tierimrecht.org/de/tiersc...ht/zuerich.php


All the best to you and your dog as you settle in. Lovely doglet, by the way.

---

Oh - and stay out of Glarus. On principle.

(The folks of that benighted idyllic canton decided to put Hovawarts on their restricted list. Whisky Tango Foxtrot?)

Last edited by meloncollie; 31.07.2015 at 07:36.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank meloncollie for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 30.07.2015, 23:20
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Berg am Irchel
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Felix_PS has no particular reputation at present
Re: Hovawart in canton Zurich

Quote:
Oh - and stay out of Glarus. On principal.

(The folks of that benighted idyllic canton decided to put Hovawarts on their restricted list. Whisky Tango Foxtrot?)
Oh, this made me laugh - I have a very vicious face licking, jumping and playing like crazy dog - true danger.

As for the rest - big thank you. I understand some German, but not a lot, but I can get it translated for me.
Can I do List 1 courses in English?
Settling in is going easier for me as all my papers are taken care of - I don't need to worry for that, just the dog stuff.
Is it very bad if we are here for 2,5 weeks and I haven't registered him yet? I read only today that I need it, so... I probably could get to the vet next week.
Doglet (whose name is Felix) sends greetings to everyone!
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Felix_PS for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 30.07.2015, 23:56
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SZ
Posts: 7,617
Groaned at 18 Times in 17 Posts
Thanked 15,926 Times in 5,233 Posts
meloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Hovawart in canton Zurich

There should be ZH List 1 trainers willing to do the classes in English, or at least who would be willing to translate for you if the other class members were all German speaking. If you are an experienced dog owner - and thus likely already know much of the material - and have even a little German you likely will be fine.

I'm not in ZH so am not familiar with trainers there. (The one person I know and can recommend, Martina Mettler of Compecane, unfortunately only does her classes in German) but as a starting point:

On another thread a poster in ZH was looking for the federal SKN Practical course in English - her dog is not a List 1 breed so she doesn't have to do the ZH courses - and two trainers recommended were Pascal Groner (recommended by EF member Countrybumpkin) and the folks at Fair Train (discussed by Heksita - I don't know if she has decided to go with them, or not).

Looking at the ZH List 1 trainer lists, both those trainers are also certified to do the List 1 courses as well... so perhaps a possibility for you. You might get in touch with Country Bumpkin or Heksita for their thoughts - but be aware that they have done the simpler SKN courses, not the List 1 series.

Here's that thread, you can read the discussion of those two trainers here:
GOOD practical SKN course (Zürich)

(I recommended my trainer in that thread, but she is not an option for List 1 as she is in SZ, not ZH.)


Hopefully owners of other List 1 dogs will be along with recommendations for their trainers - but until then, here is are the ZH certified List 1 trainers, aphabetically:
http://www.veta.zh.ch/internet/gesun...phabetisch.pdf

And by location:
http://www.veta.zh.ch/internet/gesun...25_nachOrt.pdf

Simply start contacting those convenient to you, ask if English is a possibility.

Do make sure that whoever you choose follows a philosophy that is in line with yours, uses techniques that you agree with. I always recommend observing a lesson or two before signing up with a trainer as a way to ensure that the fit is right for you and your dog.

---

Don't worry too much about the 10 days for ANIS registration, simply get that done as soon as you can.

---

FYI, as the Junghund class only goes up to 18 months, if you miss it you will simply need to take additional hours in the Erwachsene course.

---

I love Felix. See what you are missing, Glarnerland?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 31.07.2015, 00:22
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Berg am Irchel
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Felix_PS has no particular reputation at present
Re: Hovawart in canton Zurich

Thanks for the lists - I will look what is close to us, as we are without car for another half year or so. Hovawarts are so special to train, I would love to find someone who have experience with them and would not expect him to behave like shepherds etc.

Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Felix_PS for this useful post:
  #6  
Old 31.07.2015, 07:42
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SZ
Posts: 7,617
Groaned at 18 Times in 17 Posts
Thanked 15,926 Times in 5,233 Posts
meloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Hovawart in canton Zurich

You might want to get in touch with the Hovawart Club Schweiz to ask for a recommendation for a ZH List 1 trainer.

http://www.hovawart.ch

I see that there is a Hovawart breeder in ZH; that might be a good contact. Since his/her puppies sold to ZH owners will need to do the List 1 courses hopefully he/she knows which ZH trainers have experience with the breed.


All the best!

Last edited by meloncollie; 31.07.2015 at 15:06.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Laundromats in canton Zurich? fifi_bda Other/general 19 26.01.2015 12:40
Buying a home in Canton Zurich or Canton Aargau teamj&j Housing in general 13 10.02.2014 00:38
Can employer in one canton ask for work permit from another canton? Patriciaj Permits/visas/government 7 04.12.2013 06:26
working and staying in different canton than the WP canton kashif Permits/visas/government 0 31.01.2011 00:23
Foreigners voting in canton Zurich mark Swiss politics/news 14 29.01.2007 23:31


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:59.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0